Kevin: Well, to finish out just the talk that we have today on the Trump State of the Union Address 2026, I to say it was one of the more entertaining ones ⁓ when it pertained to certain Democrats yelling ⁓ and their way through. ⁓ You had one member of Congress that was again removed. What's his From Texas. Hey, hey, we're live. We are. we're live on tape. ⁓ been sitting here talking for at least an hour and now I'm all talked out. don't even feel like starting. We're wrap this up and head out. We're gonna some. Let's get breakfast. So it's been such an incredibly busy week. There's so many things to talk about. Yeah, Verlander pitched last night. Yes, he did. Let's actually look up and see what Verlander did. Welcome back to the Motor City, Justin Verlander. Yes, good to have him here. Excited to have him back. And he married a Michigan girl. There you go. So did Dac Shepard. Yes, he did. Kristen Bell. So did Mike Shanks. Yeah, that's it. There you go. I married an Ohio girl. He's in a very hotly contested seat. He might lose his primary and lose his seat. can't think of his name right now. Yeah, green green. That's exactly right. Representative Green was stood up and would not stop screaming and wouldn't sit down. And so he was removed again. ⁓ and then you had, ⁓ to leave and, and ill, Ilmar Ohan, again, just kind of yelling their way through, certain sections. ⁓ they were told not to the democratic party wanted to make sure that, ⁓ that they didn't give him what he wanted, which was, you know, this contention and everything like that, but they, could, couldn't help themselves. They had the pins on that had the, ⁓ the, She can be forgiven of these many many things. All right, let's see. I'm looking up to see what he did last night. The 43 year old. Yes, made his first start of free training for the Tigers. He has a one year $13 million contract. You think he'll retire after Detroit? he wanted to retire as a Tiger? think that's the main reason. Looks like he gave up a home run. They the Red Sox in that 2-0. obscenity and then Trump. those were wonderful pins. I don't know why the F word all of a is such a big democratic talking point. Why they're using ⁓ F word so much, but they to be. But I thought it was interesting what they chose to stand for and applaud for and what they chose to sit on their hands on. ⁓ Again, it very interesting. I think that... He exited the game after 22 pitches, including 10 foul balls and one out in the first inning. Okay, so I mean, welcome back. Yeah. Jet lag, you know, you got to come all the way from Houston or not. Houston. Yeah, Houston. Yes. So yes, yes. So not the auspicious start we want to but that's all right. It's pre it's spring training. Who cares? Who cares? Just get warmed up. 43 years old. I did not realize he was 43. No, neither did I. uh... when you look at the divisiveness that kind of was created by the state of the union it it made it kind of fun to watch did you did you catch any of the replays or any of the reactions? No, but I... No. Well say it! You've got, have something you want to say about it. Well entertaining is important in a state of the union address. if it was they should just broadcast it on the on the E-network. so when i was in virginia i had a young man who was a sales rep for me ⁓ we're driving out the middle of nowhere and i'm getting to know him because he's brand new in the position and we talking and he let it slip that he was the number one prospect in baseball coming out of high school that year in the state of virginia which virginia is a big baseball state so i'm like wow he's like yeah i played on this all-star team we went around we played a lot of other states and stuff like that it was a pretty How do you think the Democratic Party should handle the State of the Union address? well i think it's it's silly to set a bar for decorum i mean that that was speaker johnson's contention is that that the democrats don't have any decorum well i think decorum as a as a principle as a noun has at like everything i mean i think it's lost its value ⁓ there is no decorum in politics any longer there are no rules that's all been laid bare it's scorched earth we're gonna have to start all over again as far as big deal. A lot of national prospects and stuff like that. And I'm like, well, on your team, is there anybody else that I would know? He's like, well, yeah, I was the catcher and I caught for Justin Verlander. I'm like, ⁓ my gosh. You caught for Justin Verlander. He's like, yeah. And he wasn't impressed by it at all. And I'm like, so what was it like? And he's like, I don't know. He had a decent fastball. had a mediocre change up. He didn't really have the slider or the curve that he has He wasn't Verlander that we watched. No. That gave up a home run and two runs last night. And I'm like, wow. 22 pitches, 10 them were foul. One out. That's all right. It wasn't that Verlander. Well, maybe it was that Verlander. how we should run our government and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. So to stand on one side and point at the other side and say you guys didn't behave is Taylor. I don't want to say laughable, it was it was it's it's a good poster is it's it's as nine to say that that was the first day to the union that we've ever had no Taylor green yelled at was it Obama or was it by I think it was Obama. It was by yelling was it by okay, I knew it was one of the know full circle. Back high school. So I well, what was he like to hang out with? He's like, I don't know. He never hung out with us. We'd all go out drinking and chasing girls and like that. ⁓ And he would a glass of milk and go to bed ⁓ and had a good relationship with his mom. And he was making fun of it. I'm like, wait a minute. ⁓ other so I know she was yelling I I hope that she doesn't represent the Republican Party in any way shape or form because she's not very well liked within the Republican Party either so well she's not right she's not liked by an element of the Republican Party is that what you're saying that's fair okay yeah I think if you're asking me my opinion of the ⁓ I think it's ⁓ So he just signed a $120 million contract and is married to like the supermodel and you sell paint with me. get to go out drinking, you know, with me. I there is a career. That's a pin in the map right there. Wait, ⁓ coming? weird that the attorney general would be in a political ad for the president's state of the union address when that's supposed to be a separate and equal try you in form of government that we have that the attorney general would be in an ad promoting the president is i don't even know how to frame it ⁓ i don't know that supreme justices should be No, that didn't soften the blow. I used it as a way to say have made some poor life. He made all the right ones. You probably shouldn't make fun of him. I remember ⁓ I. Came start high school. my sophomore year and I played baseball at Whiteford and in the summer leagues, and I thought I could, you know, hold my own and I got to start they said, Can you pitch? I said, Well, I pitched ⁓ mostly in favor or or touting or endorsing I don't think that's their role in this government I think the founding fathers thought that we should be you don't think they should show up no they should ⁓ absolutely they should show up but they weren't endorsing as a matter of fact the previous they knocked down one of his you know primary things which is the tariffs they had struck down his basis for the tariffs that he had put in place so the Supreme Court ⁓ he he kind of So but Bill body was on that team who went on to play for the Cincinnati Reds and plays in the 15 over league in Toledo on TV, the fast pitch senior league. And so I, I, I lasted on that team for about, I think four days, but one of the days I think I was sick. So three actual days on the field, but the first time I dug in against starts starting pitcher, I don't remember who it was, but I'm dug in against this guy and the catcher said, this guy throws hard. just. them a new one during much of his speech. He was specifically going against the Supreme Court during this. I didn't see them as cheerleaders in any way, or form. at certain points when he was talking about his cheerups and what he was calling the unfortunate decisions of the Supreme Court, they were getting some applause. So I think mostly from the Democratic side, but ⁓ it seem like it was a rah rah thing for the Supreme Court justices by any stretch. during the of the No, no, not you'll be up on your toes and he threw a ball that was coming right at my head and i bailed on it i mean and i build ugly it was that one one direction i want the other and as i lay on the ground sprawled out i looked up at the umpire who is behind as well as an umpires at batting practice I'm talking about it in general in the build-up Pam bondi coming out and endorsing and promoting and is is mean She's America's lawyer, right? I'm not missed if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, like every other attorney general has not been partisan at all No, you look at Bobby Kennedy for for for John F. Kennedy. My gosh. He was he was absolutely his whipping boy I mean, think you know he used him like a big stick and umpire looked at me with this had his face and he went that was a strike i mean it was ⁓ was three feet off the plate when it came off of his hand and came right through the strike zone and it so i knew right then my ⁓ career i wasn't even qualified to carry their gear out to the bus so ⁓ i think that's what i decided i was heading in a different direction athletically and still better than my baseball career you know what i was still you had a moment in grade school you thought you were going to know to play in high school i never had that moment so apparently we had to stick to wrestling well or well wrestling was our best sport last story and we should get started but i'll say this i was told that i had never shared the day that you know i had my big coming out discussion with mom and dad the mob about that. I mean that's I think that's the history. He is an appointed person. He or she is the appointed person for that administration as Attorney General. mean that is it's a political appointment. But it's not for the administration. The Attorney General's position. ⁓ shouldn't Well if we use history as our is our mixing bowl then we can bring everything to null. mean it's fair. ⁓ That's Mike. ⁓ I'll that point. But I just I ⁓ it's And so I stop in it. Yeah, I meant to say it. Wait, wait, we're we're going down a different path. on. Let me tell the story. I've never heard this story, but OK. Anyway, that's So you're in the wrong party. But. I suppose that the difference is now they're saying the quiet parts out loud. They're just blatantly saying, no, it's one. And we all work for the one. The judicial and the. We've got a couple so let's so we grew up like it I did in a family that's very close and ⁓ my mom and dad voracious readers are mom and dad I should say yeah they're my ears and they're very politically oriented they love political discussion and debate and stuff like that and we were raised in a very democratic family big Irish family Toledo Ohio my dad had a big affiliation with the unions and all that stuff so you know he's we were we were born into a democratic bastion and we were all Democrats growing up legislative legislative in the sector branch are all part of the all drive in the same car and and we're supposed to be okay with that and not because but because some of that stuff has happened in the past means that it's okay to do it now is the shitty argument for crappy argument for what we're doing so what once you have to say you know as far as the Supreme Court they did vote against from this week and that week of that that state union okay so they one one one alright so it's just a bit ⁓ remember I teared up when Carter lost to Ronald Reagan I thought we were just all going to go to war this was a ⁓ mistake the nation had failed us I to blessed sacrament ⁓ grade in Toledo Ohio and our class it was almost universal we all voted for Jimmy Carter and the fifth grade class had picked like the last 15 winners so I thought it was done I thought I thought for sure Jimmy Carter was winning and I was devastated that he lost the election and then I started you So overall, you look to of Union, positive, negative? I thought it was a great speech. I enjoyed it. It sure looked like it was a lot of fun. He got to honor the US Olympic hockey team. He got to honor some great American heroes. The Democrats applauded for a few of them. Didn't applaud for a lot. I thought Trump came out with a great ad the next day, basically showing the Democrats not, it didn't even look like they were awake during a lot of the things that he was saying. It looked like they were literally sleeping. listening to Ronald Reagan and I am like huh this guy this guy's got ideas he makes points I started realizing I agreed with almost everything he said and there was a day that I came home and I walked in and my mom and dad are my mom's on the couch my dad's in his chair like he always is he's reading the paper and I grabbed one of the chairs from around the table and I sat it down right in front of them and I sat down and I said mom dad I have something I have to tell you it was a very effective Fair enough. so overall speech. uh... well i mean overall it was a speech i mean it was a speech after an hour and forty seven minutes everybody should be able to find something in there that they would identify with and hang on to and load a couple chambers in the weapon over and it would be you you could have something to stand on if that's what you're looking for in your state of the union it probably met all the check all the boxes i enjoyed it i thought it was a very effective speech and dad puts his paper down which is not a normal thing for him to do. Yeah, he almost never does. Yeah. And he's like, Okay. And I said, think I think I'm a Republican. And my without missing a beat, looking straight into my eyes goes, I would rather have said that you're coming out gay. there to sink your teeth into. Mike I want to thank you. enjoyed this conversation immensely. I had a lot of fun with it. ⁓ think it was an interesting one. thought the topic was good. I'm looking forward to our next episode as we talk about ⁓ military incursion ⁓ into Iran. So we're not calling it a war? Air war? I guess air war. We can call it that. It's a military exercise, a military activity. my mom roared laughing but was super funny yeah yeah yeah was the day and that they actually started out with with you know what would go on to be kind of a daily activity where we would sit around the table and we would talk about never argue politics but we would have spirited discussions about politics and and what it all meant and i i think that really forged ⁓ my political beliefs and and price point what having a somebody to balance political ideas off of the so we'll talk about that next time alright and then i'd we have all kinds of stuff to talk about with the NFL and college football so we'll we'll head on those topics the next episode too. Alright. Alright. some pushback from your father on ideas and ideology and I think I shared dad used to be the union steward at Mather metals was United Steelworker union member and of course I came up through the IBEW and. was a local a member for. Three years so we shared that so I think we found a little more readily common ground on anyway so he was a fun. Political antagonist like he he had a way of. Like you would come out with some sort of a statement politically and then he would challenge you on it just hard enough where you had to really hone your skills and make sure that you were coming into the conversation prepared to defend your position and And it didn't matter if it was the same position he had He had a way of even if he agreed with you He had a way of kind of taking that 45 degree view of something and say well, why Why do you think there? do you think it's that way or what would you do differently to make that? change now ⁓ sometimes he said it through gritted teeth depending on personal it got. Business-wise he had a definite opinion on how businesses should be run and absolutely and and and was very successful doing that. Yeah. He was a fun. He was a fun argument. Yes. Missed that always. Me too. Me too. I miss it all the time. I still have dreams of dad. I still he still shows up and he's always still doing the one thing that he did best, which is giving unbelievably good advice and challenging you the same way it is as I had a major decision to make in my life. I would bring it to him and we would just have a discussion and he would do the same thing. Ask you questions that kind of lead you to the right decision. And so it was your decision and it was something that you came up with but he led you. mean, at the end I think he well he knew where the conversation was going to end because he was in control of it. He was even if you thought you were you were still playing with the pawns he was moving the king around. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ you're still playing checkers. I'll give you a minute. was so my career choices over the years and I've had you know we've moved a lot and no Paula will tell you yeah really yeah two times I heard you bought a car and you and you made a move with work a car ⁓ and I bought and sold the same truck to each other four times I four I think four times yeah and then I broke it ⁓ ⁓ I Yeah, all I did was turn the key and it just would not stop going just never actually started ⁓ pranking was ⁓ started yelling. I'm like daddy turn the key. I don't know what he did wrong Your brother broke the truck ⁓ Exactly. I he might have said exactly those words Well, it's so moving around a lot and changing careers and ⁓ indecision. I a lot of that if I self-reflect a little bit is those were always times when I would go to dad and say, advice do you have? What do you think I should do? And ⁓ that pole in the sand as your studying guide post, I think it's led to me being a little indecisive and make, I wouldn't change any decisions. Our time in Florida was awesome. each job came with different challenges and I I left every job with a little more knowledge about how to. people and manage people and then ultimately made the decision that that's not really what I want to do I don't want to be in ⁓ leadership role so the position and then right now nobody reports to me I'm not responsible for anybody of work every day and fix things and at the end of the day I'm responsible for myself and I think you know it doesn't pay like the management superintendent or manager roles paid but certainly it ⁓ dividends in other ways where you're not carrying work home at 330 when the when day is over with I throw my tools in the truck and go home so work-life balance yeah means a lot it does yeah without question but all that to say have not having dad around to kind of fill in those gaps and ⁓ and his wisdom yeah just miss that about him So there's so many things I miss about them. So right. Yeah. So why don't we why don't we start off talking a little bit about the state of the my gosh. You know what. When the when the week started this week I thought ⁓ my gosh I can't wait till we get together and talk about the record setting state of the union address record setting just because it's the longest but one of the most positive. Okay, it was a little combative. little bit. A little bit. so what we know what we're keeping the ways from the speech what it only use the this is all you time i didn't watch it there was no it was an hour and forty seven minutes he broke the record for the longest state union held by him now he is the two longest so if you're looking for long ⁓ ⁓ lot of words he had a lot of fun with it i think he was really looking forward to it ⁓ you know i think that when you when you see what he was trying to accomplish he definitely accomplish his goals he he was able to tell to the economic record that he had created when you look at affordability that's gonna be a big big topic come midterm so if you don't you're guessing this i i have i have it still lower than it was ⁓ during the biden administration so it's little higher i think you want twenty cents higher twenty four thousand it's forty cents a gallon more than what it was before we started dropping bombs on her ⁓ i know i i got my information from a liberal news media outlet like google or something but the fact is my truck is up is a thirty five gallon tank and when i fill it up it is forty dollars more michael up still now it's still cheaper than what it was in the abide administration where the average was over four dollars a gallon i think it's barely over three now it's what's the way cheaper than what it was again looking at affordability we're still far better and this is a temporary it's always the market's gonna react because of what's going on ⁓ this is not going to be a long drawn out even even like i i rack or afghanistan was i think we have a very happy how do you know that i don't know that this is what i believe how does he know that don't think you 100 % can completely exactly how long it's going to be, but I know he knows his plan. He knows what his generals want to do. I think the word temporary is a word for the unknown. I think it's dangerous to say that, yeah, you're going to have to pay more for gas and more for supplies and more for everything, but it's only going to be temporary. ⁓ I think you're to use that as a talking point, we need to be careful about timelines and well, when you look at what What's going on with the ground incursion by the Kurds and the Iraqis? don't think it's going to be necessary for the United States to have ground troops. I'm really hoping that's not the case. Well, we just stopped military operations for the 82nd, and the is, the conventional wisdom is that they're preparing to send them over to deploy. But here's the thing about that. China and Russia are backing Iran with funding, and ⁓ so if think... It's intelligence. they're mostly giving them. They're not committing troops and weapons, at least at this time. We'll see how that goes. the end of this day, ⁓ believe that the mere threat ⁓ ground is going to get us closer to what is really needed, and that is regime change in Iran. well we are in the business of regime change so i mean that should have the shirts made up that that we are champions of we don't like how you run your country so we're going to be really what we should do is set up on boys and prepare teams to go over to start running these countries and replacement of the existing regime so that there's not i'm not i'm i mean be facetious but obviously there needs to be a step behind that plan for okay so we kill the we bomb the compound take out the top twenty officials what's the because they're going to replace him with somebody in kind, the son of, the nephew of, the uncle of, who's probably been pining for that job for generations and is looking to make a mark as the leader of that country. And how do you do that? Well, you shoot missiles towards Riyadh or towards Egypt or towards some other country that is perceived as a threat to you because they're not going to shoot them yet. across the ⁓ across the ocean so they're gonna take out people in that region making that region more unstable than what it was before we stopped our finger and i'm not going to disagree with you on that point in for for a couple key reasons but before we get to that let's let's ⁓ let's talk about the ⁓ you know the the speech and and will bring that will close because i i think that that needs to be a kind of it's separate a separate segment So I think he made the case for Iran. I think he talked about all the stuff that he wanted to to that. actually, when he said that we can never let Iran achieve a nuclear bomb, that was one of those rare times at the State of the Union where everybody clapped. All Democrats clapped. So everybody clapped. And so I think that that was a good unifying thing. He was definitely setting the case for what happened later that week when that following when the bomb started falling. So that was one of the things he want to accomplish. I think he was able to tout, you know, where the stock market has gone to. Now, it's a rough week for the stock market. know, me personally, got pummeled a little ⁓ that is temporary. The market will always adjust and then ⁓ going to come back up. So, but stock market has done extremely well, the economy, the number of jobs, all that stuff, he was to tout. So he touted a lot of his economics, which I thought made a very good case. we look at affordability coming compared to what was going on in less administration the inflation rates were much more in line into that two percent two-and-a-half percent which is good you need to have a little bit of an increase every year it's good for the dollar it's good for ⁓ you know the economy overall ⁓ ⁓ and and that that is where that's that sweet spot that we're really looking for as opposed to you know these double digits of gains we're having during the last administration and a a of it came on the backs of energy because there were so many restrictions going on in the energy as far as ⁓ drilling and oil exploration and all the stuff that they were doing making it so expensive and so difficult to pump oil. So I think that drill baby drill kind of came out during that. They talked about, he talked about ⁓ energy and how that was gonna drive down ⁓ lot of ⁓ overall cost and inflation. ⁓ well definitely having removing any of the restrictions on emissions and how it affects the environment is going to make it more profitable too don't think they were all eliminated or anything like that but the the ⁓ the accords the paris accords and stuff like that which penalize ⁓ first world countries ⁓ at the expense of a company of a country like china which has no restrictions and just dumps and burns and does all the stuff that they do ⁓ variable to produce everything and do it very cheaply we can't and how are we to compete with a country like that? It was putting us in a very difficult economic circumstance. honestly, ⁓ ⁓ some deregulation was necessary. I think pulling back some of those environmental concerns, it was probably the right thing to do overall for the U.S., for our economy and for our national security. But not for the earth. I mean, all I'm going to say on this is you have to sacrifice something in order to give on the other side. So if you're going to give the oil producers and the refinery, I have some background in that, in order to give them the ability to refine oil and produce at the same rate as some of these other countries, we're going to have to emit more pollutants into the air and into the groundwater and into our streams. I'm just saying you have to be OK with the fact that there's no such thing. no such thing as clean oil. does not exist. Okay, so let's talk about the amount of oil that is necessary to operate and manufacture and maintain a wind farm. So let's let's look at the amount of oil that's needed in order to create the number of cubic feet of concrete that is necessary just for the base of one of those gigantic steel towers that becomes a wind farm. How much oil is needed to lubricate that thing in an average year? The carbon footprint that you get from one of those wind towers, it will never ever be able to replace the amount of oil. It's carbon footprint in the lifespan of one of those towers, which is what? 25 years of producing energy it will never be able to replace the amount of fossil fuels that it took to manufacture it to transport it to assemble it. We've all watched land man. We know the numbers. It was a great. It was one of the best scenes in television history. is nothing. well, in a couple of minutes, he completely changed the debate because then you go through and you look it up and he's right. It's crazy. Well, I don't think that speech was theatrics. ⁓ it was a political commentary and meant to make a statement about the business as a whole. I mean, it's land man. It's all about ⁓ what talking about. Absolutely. But I think that my customers in Houston ⁓ love show. ⁓ Anybody you cross the state of Texas state line, I'm sure you're gonna find a bunch of fans. So they just like Wyoming had a bunch of fans of Yellowstone and Montana and Bozeman. a cultural commentary on ⁓ life is in those states. but if you look at it if you look at the the math on that then you're not talking clean energy there there's no such thing as clean alternative energy when it takes that much fossil fuels in order to make that work but i the technology the learning curve has to start on that side of the spectrum we have to learn how to be better caretakers of the environment or find a clean way to make that and and make it efficient and get that done and then let's institute that you have a little funding for that goes away when you make the decision that we're gonna drill baby drill what what he's saying is about the money that goes towards battery production and and eevee ⁓ technology and expanding the grid and and Microsubstations in neighborhoods that run on alternative fuel sources all of the all of the research that went into that goes away because it's being redirected towards the the oil platform. pay for their own that the people that are that are investing in exploration and drill baby drill those are the oil companies all that comes out of their pocket. They're the ones that are fronting all that money. There's no research dollars that were diverting away from that in order to invest in alternative fuels. that the private sector should be doing that and if you could make it viable if you could make it work china's done a very good job with their batteries now when you look at the rare earth metals that that it takes to make those when you look at the environmental impact of all of that stuff and the amount of energy you have to produce which in china is all coal they're burning australian coal to put to power their grid in order to charge those batteries in order to make their eevee cars go so Is that clean? No, most certainly not. It's horrible for the environment what they're doing to produce. they've made unbelievable gains in EV technology. And their batteries last longer, and you can just change those things out and make it simple. I they've innovated. There's no doubt about it. It's still not clean. So again, what is the impact of drill baby drill? Well, financially, I think it's huge for us. didn't where do we just find a rare earth metals there's one in what north carolina pennsylvania and west virginia foreign it would have been a foreign enemy Japan had a huge find well greenland there's a ton on ⁓ somewhere that ice we're assuming i think greenland? huh that's weird which is a now are fifty what fifty seconds eight if canada becomes our fifty first then greenland would be the fifty second state sure well we're doing it to protect the people all right of course from denmark yet wallows denmarkians well as well as there any rare earth metals in venezuela i bet we'll find some well i'll somebody already did okay so he made the economic impact in the in the speech and then he moved on to border security which his claim was that the border is the safest it's ever been i think that i think that was his overall claim not again i don't know in the history of our country i don't know how many people are trying to get in a seventeen seventies of all time it's safest it's ever been ⁓ since came across on the ice were those dressed in gold ⁓ that was not to my question were they documented were they vetted did we vet those vikings Well, that's what, you if you have to say Trump is very good at something, it's if you aren't afraid of something. we will find you something to be afraid of and then will sign ownership of it and then will make you afraid of it okay then i have a crystal to that we're not talking about biden has been out of office for a year and a half let it go it's it word we're cutting a new path this is a new president you're right we are we're looking we're forward-looking country now so so biden and obama are are behind us there in the past and now after a year and a half it's time to put that away art and find a new villain so border security. ⁓ that's the hot but make you afraid of people that look different than you and then assign blame to it, make you afraid of it and then can direct your vote. And that's what he's good at. I'm saying he is a master at not much but that. All right, so let's look at border security. the united states people or election fraud saw well i mean the election fraud i think that's an important one because that's not actually on the list to be sure see the americans first it's the next thing up which was a pretty big deal uh... as far as making sure what did it change so when you look at uh... or security when you look at uh... the cost of illegal aliens in this country and again i'm not trying to ⁓ to denigrate anybody i'm not looking at any certain type of people are where they come from or anything like that i don't think that's the right thing to do as a christian i want to love all people of don't laugh and i'm not laughing that's true i do i love everybody I love everybody across the board. I don't have favorites when it comes to loving because Jesus loves everybody, God loves everybody. when you look at the to our country, there is huge cost for illegal immigration coming in, for education, for for ⁓ governmental services, for those things. ⁓ It's a lot money. And I think the point that Trump was trying to make during his speech is we should be about our citizens first. And after that, we can look to see what we can do for illegal immigrants. We're not taking care ⁓ our veterans, but we're taking all this money and we're putting it towards illegal immigrants. ⁓ why? ⁓ know, why are we doing that? Are we doing that because ⁓ Democratic president wants to make sure that there's enough illegal immigrants coming in, giving them all ⁓ government programs they can so they can make sure they're assuring that they have future votes in certain states to make sure that they can still win national elections moving forward and if that's the goal then then state that goal but but it sounds like it looks to me like that's what the Democrats are trying to do ⁓ of that you're willing to overlook anything else any problems are raised by that arise because of it whether it be crime increases whether it be attacks on women whether you know no matter what it is all it it's okay and it's overlooked and you're racist if you say anything against all of these things that come in when you don't bet people when you don't have people come to the borders properly when you don't take the best and brightest first you know you can you just let everybody in on that you're going to create all kinds of problems and and i think we're we're being foolish if we don't if we do we have immigration policies always have for a reason because we're a sovereign nation and we have borders for a reason because not everybody should be allowed in we need to bet people we need to make sure we're we're adding to our society and not detracting from it. And it shouldn't bankrupt a state like California. It shouldn't bankrupt a state like New Mexico or Texas when you have to take care of all these people that came in that are now of your society. Well, so the illegal immigrants voting, the the pushback I have on that is there's a report from the Heritage Foundation, who's the sponsor of the project 2025, but their own website did a survey on voting and how many illegal people voted up until 2024. I think the research started in like the 90s. and and of the billions of votes it it not that the the number of people that were illegal immigrants actually voted and were proven that was proven out was and this is not an exaggerate I knew I was gonna get ⁓ face so ⁓ would encourage anybody who's listening to this to to check out the Heritage Foundation website was a survey done on voting fraud and and you can prove out the numbers faster than I can but I I read the article Out of the they said two billion votes overall total in this time frame and then they whittled it down or winnowed it down by number of ⁓ legal immigrants that voted and but the actual fraud cases that were proven out were were miniscule it was a percentage point not enough to even sway a vote and again this might be a good place to hit the pause button and we can look up this research and come back to this. I think that's a good idea because that that sounds really low. I've seen a lot of numbers. I've never seen 10. I've seen tens of thousands in certain regions of the United States, ⁓ like like in Minneapolis, where there is a large Somali community that have taken part in voting. And mean, from from the research that I've seen, there were far more than 10 just in that city. It was many more. was in the ⁓ So ⁓ have to definitely do more research. take a break.