Timitri & Katiah: Did we hit our goal? We missed it two minutes. It's currently 9 32. ⁓ well. April 6th. minutes is not too bad. ⁓ No, not bad. yeah, ⁓ the results are from our mold test. ⁓ In case anyone was wondering, what did it say, Demetri? It said we had some mold spores. It had like... I think there were 13. 13 parts per million or something. Yeah, something like that. It was the same. It was equivalent to the outside air. Yep. but that just leaves questions for us. I know you still think there's mold in the house. ⁓ yeah, I'm still very skeptical. I'm certain there's mold in the house. Okay, listen, it's Colorado, it's dry as fuck, we're not getting any rain, so there's no leaks. We don't have any ongoing plumbing leaks. I know, but when there's past leaks in a home, That's when the mold grows and the mold doesn't just go away just because it gets dry again. I have a, I found a mask out in the garage today, still in the package. Yeah. I could crawl down there in that crawl space and crawl underneath the flooring. Yeah. And see, even though that's, that's vented, it's got, it pulls air from one side of the house. and exhausted out of the other side of that crawl space. I know. Of the house. But now I'm wondering if there's mold up here in our bedroom slash bathroom. I don't think there's mold in the house. I think if anything, we haven't changed HEPA filters on our vacuum since we bought that thing. I don't think changing the filter on the vacuum is going to make a difference. It's not like we're running the vacuum 24-7. We've had that vacuum since before COVID. So? Since COVID. So think a dirty vacuum filter is going to lead to neurological things, constant illness, constant respiratory stuff? If you're talking about mold spores getting released into the air, I think it's the probability, it's more likely to come from a vacuum cleaner getting turned on than it is from some dormant buried mold that's not being disturbed, that's not getting kicked up into the air. that can't be tested in the air because it's not being disturbed. But that vacuum has been, I mean, how many times have that vacuum been used to suck up something wet and then it sits in that tank? You said you've cleaned the tank, but I wish somebody who's a mold expert would come on here and have this discussion with us because everything that I've come across, honestly, Maybe I'll reach out to some of the families on Instagram who have actually a mold expert. I know you don't believe me. No, an actual mold expert, not someone who is... I'm very well versed in the I know you're very well versed, but you're not an expert of mycotoxins. Microtoxins. Myco. Mycotoxins? Mold is a mycotoxin. That But I wish we could have someone on here who has, either is a mold expert. or has experienced mold poisoning in their life. I've searched it several times on Instagram. So my algorithm is full of them. So maybe I'll reach out someone and see if they'd come on our podcast and talk about their experience Maybe don't search this shit on Instagram and you won't be so paranoid about I'm searching this stuff on Instagram because I was paranoid about mold, not the other way around. I just, I don't know dude, cause I've been, I've seen some sketchy situations and there's families out there who are exposed to some true like water intrusion. Like they've got constant leaks in their house. Landlords not doing anything about it. They could see the mold. They're literally living in it. And this house, like it is bone dry. Bone, like literally bone dry. So I don't think, like, I think it's like to have the audacity to think this house is moldy when there's like true issues. I know there's been things on social media and there might've been other houses, even in our, even in our area that have had mold issues, but I just don't want to I don't want to keep wasting time and money on this issue. And it could be something else. It could be a string of things. ⁓ Yeah, I don't know. We've got it tested. I'm dying on that hill because I didn't want the test. I didn't think the test was necessary. And we got it done. I just don't understand how you don't believe me. Like you can even see the water intrusion on our windowsills. Every single windowsill in our home up here has water intrusion, has bubbled, has paint peeling. Those are all signs of mold. Not signs of mold. Yes, they are. Signs of water intrusion. Things expand and contract. that can't release moisture is going to mold. And at what rate, at what rate does that wood need to dry in order to mold? That's not how that works. Once you're bubbling, you're in the mold phase. Once your wood is bubbling and your paint is peeling. The bubbling is coming from the wood swelling. There's swelling happening. Sometimes gases are being released because it's soaking up. It's porous. It's soaking up water. And you don't think it's growing mold at the same time? No, I think it takes a certain condition to grow mold. All right, well, let's end this mold discussion, because I'm just, we're not gonna see eye eye on it, apparently. I wanna end the mold discussion, but I wanna continue finding out what's going on, because there are, I mean, everything from the water you bathe in, the food you eat. the things you wear, ⁓ a lot of variables here and to like pin it all, ⁓ medication, pin it all on something that we've tried and tested and ⁓ almost wanted to pull up flooring today to like go fishing for something. ⁓ I don't know, I think there's a lot of other aspects of our life that I think we could button up to correct some of these, ⁓ try to check some of these issues. Okay, rather than making ourselves go crazy looking for fucking black mold in our house I just don't know what else explains all of the same things at once. Well, let's find out happening with me Maybe somebody will Somebody else is like feeling because like I'm I feel like I'm getting sick again This is a fucking issue dude. Like it's back-to-back. Yeah, I feel like every couple weeks every couple of weeks. We're getting sick Yeah, What if we had faulty cabin air filters in one of our vehicles? not even in the vehicle once a day. How would that affect me the most? Anytime you get into the vehicle, I'm just saying there's so many different ways we could, if it is from mold exposure, there's so many different areas we could be getting exposure from. Mattresses. ⁓ Yeah. These cups everybody's fucking obsessed with these hydro flasks. Toothbrushes. Yeah, I don't know. We'll figure it out. Other than that, what else? We've been. I don't want to say slack in, but we have not been recording. No. Part of it is just difficulty getting to press record. Yeah. Well, and then I we were supposed to record again. We were like, oh yeah, we're going to stay on top. We ended up having to cancel with our ⁓ guest. ⁓ We didn't cancel, had cancel because she was hospitalized for sickness. ⁓ So. That's crazy. ⁓ I it's been a year for everybody as far as sickness goes. But then last week we were going to try to record midweek and then I ended up going having to go to urgent care. Still have no idea what was going on with me but. Yeah. ⁓ I'm on antibiotics, but no answers. Yeah. I am better. So, I mean, I guess that's a good sign, but yeah. So it's just been a lot and it's hard to find the motivation to sit down and hash things out on a podcast when we were talking all day too. Yeah. Or at least trying to like communicate all day. Yeah. So. And things have still been kind of rocky between us, but aside from that, there have been some distractions from our podcast. Yeah. It's taken a back seat for sure. Yeah, but I don't think we should apply that. We had a pretty good talk about it today. Yeah. But I think maybe we should take some pressure off of. Ourselves. Yeah, just like ourselves and like our expectations of the podcast and just think of it as like. a long-term thing. Yeah. No, just like it'll it happens. mean, go nowhere. Yeah. And maybe we'll ebb and flow with our rhythm. Mm You know. But yeah, another thing that kind of made me hesitant was getting I'm getting some feedback, you know, from people and ⁓ I had gotten what felt like some negative feedback and it made me rethink how like we do this whole podcast. Yeah. So yeah, that just kind of had me taken aback. Just like. Is this the route I wanna go? Yeah. you know, just something like that. So it just had me kinda hesitant, but we had a pretty good talk about how... don't let, you know, just like one person like set you back or whatever. Cause yeah, we kind of went into this with our own game plan and there's going to be some tomatoes thrown or some. Yeah. We're not going to be everybody's cup of tea. Yeah. Yeah. There's certain podcasts that I don't listen to. There's certain podcasts that you're not interested in, but I don't know. I think. Like we had discussed earlier, I feel like we decided when we started, wanted to start this podcast that we didn't want to box ourselves into anything. We didn't want to be like, ⁓ this is a disability parenting podcast, or this is just a parenting, a gentle parenting podcast or whatever. So we made it more of like a way for us to talk about our lives and to hopefully learn. stuff in the process and maybe teach other people things, teach each other things in the process without it being like... a specific tailored curated experience. Yeah, I think. OK, so just to get you up to speed, what was said was, man, I heard your guys podcast and I was I was at first like, oh, yeah, what do you think? And he's like, that sounds like therapy. And that's kind of what had me taking him back because it kind of felt. Like a dig. Yeah, it sounds like a dig. know, like, because there was a follow up to that. I feel like was a couple of weeks later when I saw him in person, he was like, Yeah, I feel like you guys shouldn't be doing a podcast. You should probably just be going to couples therapy. And oh, boy, I misinterpreted that kind of I don't know if you did, I think I think what he was what he was meaning was I don't think you guys should be saying that stuff on a podcast. You should be doing that at Couples Therapy. You know? Because that's what him and his wife did. not everybody like that. I think that's what kind of makes us a little unique. Is just like that vulnerability of just like some of the shit we're honest about. Yeah. And not a lot of people do that. Like not a lot of people want to listen. Yeah. Or not listen, but not a lot of people would put their info or put their business out in the internet like that, you know? Yeah, there's definitely some people who are more private in that regard and... they would rather deal with things behind closed doors ⁓ and ⁓ make other people think that everything's just fine and dandy. ⁓ Right. And maybe only like ⁓ telling these things to their very close friends something, Well, to be honest, it's like- It's none of their damn business. Your business is no one else's business and we are choosing to speak about some of this stuff openly. And we're having conversations about it prior. We're not exposing each other on the podcast. We're not calling each other out. It's more like, hey, this is what we're going to talk about tonight because we feel like we need to share it. Not only to be relatable to our audience, but also to hopefully get some guidance in the future if it's something we are looking for, you know? Right, because I think something that we all struggle with, think, because I hear it a lot and I see it a lot on social media, is the way family and life is portrayed on the internet and so on and so forth. ⁓ So I think at least for us, it feels good to kind of get like the feedback from people like, yo, Me too. Like I feel you. Yeah. So and so forth. yeah, it's exactly. And I even had like when we first wrote when we released that episode on our marriage, I had a friend that was also kind of offended, I think, in a way that we went on the podcast and talked about it. And I didn't come to that person directly to talk about it. But I feel like it makes it a bigger deal if I'm to be like. hey friend, I need to sit down and tell you like my marriage is struggling. Cause for me, I feel like it's a phase. It's not something where I'm needing to go like confide in someone and talk about it. You know, that's not, I don't know. Not only is that not me, unless I'm like, I really need help with this. ⁓ But that's just not usually something I do. But do you? Like, do you have that? Do you have? I don't think I you feel like you have that person or like? Sometimes, yeah, but I'm just not that person, just like I'm not that person to ask for help, I'm usually not that person to be like, hey, I need some advice. I'm not. Yeah. I'd rather figure it out on my own. I mean, if there's ever something that I'm like super questioning, like, I don't know. Something in my life that's going on that I'm like, hey, can you help me with this? Like, maybe. But as far as my marriage, I don't know that I have anybody to look up to to be like, wow, you've had 15 years of a successful marriage. How do you do it? I don't know. ⁓ We've a lot our marriage ⁓ about... going to other people to vent about your spouse. And I think that's a little different than how you, what you're saying is like, yeah, I'm not really gonna go ask for advice, but how it really comes out in most marriages is you get pissed off with your spouse, and then you hit up your home girl, and you go off about, like you talk negatively about said person because you're mad in the moment. But that friend, that family member, so on and so forth, doesn't love them the way you do. So then once things settle and you feel better, you know, now you're creating resentment and resentment, you know, between your friends and your support group and the one you're supposed to love. Exactly. But what you're talking about is a little different. You're talking about literally like you don't feel like you have anyone you would go to for like marriage advice or advice on? Yeah, I would rather go to a therapist. Like if we, you know, if we were like, let's go do couples counseling, I would rather get the advice from like an expert than someone who's like, yeah, my marriage is smooth. We've been together eight years. We don't have any issues. It's like every marriage is so unique that I don't think that I could get advice from somebody else and be able to run with it. Well, you have like your sisters and your mom and your cousin. Okay. None of them are married. What do you mean? I guess. I see what you mean. Yeah, but there's, I mean, guess there's times where I vent. really you through it. Huh? I haven't really put you through it. Yeah. I mean, there's times where I do like vent about you, like in the moment or something, but it's not, I'm not gonna like put you down. I'm not gonna like name call. It's not that type of- Where you like sneak, like- Yeah. Kind of like sneaky about it Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Like I don't think that's healthy. No, it's not. that. Yeah. A lot. Especially when couples are fighting and it's like, I'm going try to get. my closest friends. It's not, I think it's subconscious. You know, it's just, I'm trying to vent, tell my girl how I feel, blah, blah, blah. This is fun to talk about. Yeah. I'm not one to run to someone every time you and I get in a fight. Cause that would be a lot and they'd be annoying. I'd be exhausted. No, but I mean like, it's not, like you said, it's not, it's literally not anyone's business. And it's not something that I'm like, I need to share. And even like, We're on a podcast talking about it, William. ⁓ We're on a podcast talking about our personal that's our podcast, you and I together having a conversation just to be like, hey, this is where we're at. You're right. That's different. It's mutual. It's respectful. It's our business that we're business that we're deciding to share. And you know what? We're putting ourselves out there in the world and I'm proud of us. So I don't want to let one negative circling back. We're ourselves out. I'm proud of us. We're genuine and authentic and. ⁓ yeah. I don't care at the end of the day. That's all that matters. And if we have critics, we have critics. Yeah. Really? And add to that at the end of the day, like can't allow. the negativity to change who or how you are. Yeah. Because then, you know, where you going to be down the road? You know? Yeah. How far will you be from what your vision was? If you if you're just malleable to. Mm hmm. Opinion. Exactly. And you just shrink yourself and form yourself to whatever else you think other people want out of you. But see, I respect the guy in a way that I want. I want people who think like that or have that perspective, I guess. I still want to find a way to appeal to these people, even though they might disagree with something we're saying or it might make them feel uneasy. I still want them to be like, it's still got to be like, but I feel you, dude. I'm totally still going through that, like, and it's enjoyable to listen to. Yeah. So I was just making like, there was no like sweetener. added onto that little. There wasn't really, there wasn't like. That sucks. Yeah, but ⁓ I think I don't, I really doubt that they really listened to it. Every episode. A full episode. Yeah, probably not. This is probably a snippet or one episode of us talking about our marriage. Yeah, so. Who knows, but. But it's still, it was like, I don't know, it was kind of eye, not eye opening, but. ⁓ I don't know why it put me on the edge of my seat for a second. was like, what are we doing? I know you literally were like, was like, don't know, an identity crisis. I don't know if I want to like, keep going. Does this sound like therapy to do? We want to keep sounding like therapy. I want to have fun. I'm like, you know, I'm like a chill dude. really laid back. I don't I don't consider myself like. Deep thinker. Not that deep to be like, ⁓ that sounds like therapy, dude. Or I don't. Yeah, I don't. That's not how I want to expose myself to the world is like my therapy. You know, I wish I would have been there because I would have been like, well, what do mean by that? But comedies, I feel like is like therapy. Yeah. I'm working on my stand up. I know. Every day you're like working on my stand up. How's it coming? It's just. I think it's a good way for me to segue into me saying something inappropriate. Just working on my therapy. of me saying just joking. ⁓ Well. The end. really need to find my antibiotics. ⁓ if you haven't mixed, ⁓ just go 50-50. One part ⁓ water, one ⁓ pineapple juice. ⁓ man. It's so good. It's so refreshing. buzzing and refreshing. I chug it and it hydrates me way faster than water. Hi, sweet girl. It's Easter Monday. Oh, it is. Yeah. Easter Monday. Easter was yesterday. How'd it go? How do you think it went? Easter? Better than last year. Remember last year, it kind of snuck up on us and Oh my goodness. We were, it was like the middle of the day and you would take, you had to take the kids to one side of the house so I could hide eggs on the other side of the house. Now I'm remembering. Yep. I do remember that for some reason I was drawing a blank What's up, Willow? ⁓ But yeah, we now that I remember we were we were super unprepared. I feel like I did a grocery order that day to get their baskets filled or something. But no, this year was good. Dinner was really good. I used a new ham recipe. Except I fucked up the. Fried cabbage. Because we didn't have any bacon. There's no meat in it. There are no meat in there. No bacon, turkey, no ham. I didn't think I should have shoved some ham in there. What was I doing? the were like arriving right as I was finishing up dinner. And so I didn't have any bacon. And so I just did onions and cabbage. But ⁓ it was OK. much better with bacon. It still didn't feel right. I was sitting, I was just thinking about like. what our Easter's were like growing up compared to our kids. And I know we have our own personal beliefs, but I'm like, that's, I don't know, they have nothing to compare it to, so they don't know. But like, I don't know, I just think of, my mom would dress me up all cute, it's something I wouldn't wanna, I wouldn't feel comfortable in it, but I'd look cute, I'd be looking cute, it'd be like some sort of church clothes, you know? And the decorations are all cute and. powder pink and sky blue and you know, it was just, and there was decorated cakes and families all together. Yeah. Well, that's part of it. We don't have anybody here. Yeah. So it's going to feel different. I mean, I was thinking about that too, cause I was thinking about remembering like hunting for eggs and everybody comes out to watch the kids hunt for eggs. to grandma's house. Yeah. Yeah. So it's going to be different. I mean, we're away from everybody Part of the big sacrifice, I guess. Yeah. We choose. And then, yeah, we start to miss it when we're gone. But I remember being there and we were like, holidays were like, full. Stress, full. Yeah. Like, oh, we got to go here, then we got to go here. What time we got to be at your mom's house? Yeah. I don't know. And then Charlie after you got to go to my grandma's house. Especially with Christmas. It's like that movie for Christmases. Yeah. Like when you start having kids, when you start having kids and you got to do that, like, yeah. Yeah, I remember my mom one year though, for when we were talking about like going places for Christmas, she's like, I'm my foot down. I'm only going to one place this year. And I think that lasted one year. And then we were like, mom, we really miss going to Papa Mike's. We really miss going to Grandma Cathy's. You know what I mean? So it was like, it's yeah, it's hard because you do want to see everybody, but. That's a lot. It's a lot for kids. It's a lot for parents to plan all that and navigate it all. yeah, it was just a chill day. I think the kids had fun. Luca said this is the best Easter ever. So that's awesome. I know we have like family that like wants that wants to move here. who knows, maybe over the years things will sort of change a little bit. Yeah. Maybe everybody will end up here one day. I don't know. Who's everybody? It would be my family. Yeah. But we'll see. I know my youngest sister is planning on moving here. She's going to come in May and look at some places and decide on where she wants to be. Man, I want my brothers to visit. I know if they just visited one time, they'd be like, I have no choice. Yeah. got to relocate. Yeah. It's just so expensive here, That's the only... it's just making that transition is what's... what's expensive, but the economy here, I think, and the way I've experienced it is the economy here is just different. You have all classes ⁓ of income in these areas, so it just depends on what you make of it, but I think the amount of opportunity in this, that was a big old fart, by the way. That was a big old toot. She's got big toots tonight. ⁓ lost my train of thought, where was I? You were saying the way people like handle the opportunity, something like that, the opportunity here. ⁓ I just think there is more opportunity, like there's compared to where we're from in Eastern Washington. You have Eastern Washington, Northern Idaho, you're pretty much messing with. And if you're not a blue collar person or you're not into real estate, then you're swallowed up by really, really low income jobs. Yeah. And not a lot of promise. But I feel like here, ⁓ between Denver I think the whole state has because it has different demographics yeah throughout the state but as far as like Denver Metro Colorado Springs there's just a lot more opportunity for growth for you to become just a little bit more self-made yeah ⁓ yeah it's just yeah a little different you know you have a little bit more population to work with and yeah what you have there when I've looked at like income for the States, Washington, not income, but cost of living. Washington is higher, but I think that's cause of the Seattle area. But still Spokane is getting up there too with Contra Shadow. it's like, remember the reason why we moved here. Well, when we decided to move here, when we were looking at cost per square foot and seeing the, like you're seeing what you're getting for what you're paying for. It was like it made sense, it made it seem like it made more sense to spend that money here than to kind of waste your money. Yeah, because we moved here, before we moved here, we were looking for houses actively. And that was one of our deciding factors to move is we were like, we don't want any of these junky places. Terrible, like terrible homes for 280,000 and people are putting in offers. that are a hundred thousand over asking. So we were getting beat out left and right. Our realtor was showing us the most terrible homes. I was like, what is this? The one I'm thinking of is the one that was like off of green. Like when you go kind of towards like Trent area, it was like off of that area. There was a park right across the street, which was really cool. But do you remember this house? was like the size of this bedroom. No, I remember if all the houses made me uncomfortable. Everything made me want to puke. Yeah, because it was way more than we could afford, but way less space than we needed. Yeah, there was only one house that we were like, okay, we could do this. And it was, it was like a manufactured home. Yeah. On that corner lot. We were about to a quarter million dollars on a trailer. That was, it was like decent. was bare bones, but it was decent condition. were like, okay, we can make this work. It was the only one that we were like, we could see this working. And then all the other ones that were nice that we liked, it would just, they were just like, we were getting beat out instantly. There like 90 offers on one home. So yeah, it was a nightmare. Do you wish we would have bought? Maybe just so that we would have had like a rental in Spokane and had some kind of stream of income moving here. Hopefully. But because this is what this is what was happening. Yeah. All these houses were fixer uppers that were way overpriced. Yes. So we would have had a big mortgage and it would have been hard for us. pushing it. It would have been hard for us to get out of. Yeah. Spokane. Yeah. I we would have been like. Yeah, I don't think we would have been able to leave because that was the top, top, top of our budget at that point. So yeah, no, mean. And the FHA, we would have been stuck in the house for so long. Yep, exactly. So and yeah, it was funny too, because some of the houses she was showing us, I was like, how would these even pass an inspection with FHA? bare minimum passes. I know. Bare minimum. Yeah, so. And then we've looked here, we've looked into buying here, but it's, it's expense. It's so much more expensive than renting right now. Yeah. So it's kind of pushed us out of the housing market again. That's why I was curious if you wish we would have purchased, like if somehow that would have led to us finally having some real estate and it would have carried forward in a good way. But no, because. I we would have had an even tougher time. I mean, who knows? Maybe we would have that extra stream of income, but say we had bought in Spokane and then sold it to get here. Then we'd have to do a conventional loan and put down a huge down payment on our first home. Here? Here. Whereas right now we can, we still qualify for an FHA so we wouldn't have to do a crazy hefty down payment. So we could. still have a chance to buy. But I think if we had bought in Spokane and then tried to move here and then looked at buying, would be, I don't know, we'd be in a stickier situation, I feel like. I told you. I told you. Wait, can you take Willow for second? I was even talking about this earlier. was telling you earlier that when the baby has gas, mommy has gas. That's crazy. when the baby has gas, ⁓ mommy has gas. That's ⁓ I'm telling you, I don't know what it is, but I read online that you share a gut microbiome with your ⁓ Hi. It's like Bluetooth. Yeah. ⁓ Because their gut microbiome is created in your gut microbiome ⁓ and then they're born and you continue to breastfeed. And your breast milk is produced with your gut microbiome. And so it like, yeah, feeds off of each other. So she's allergic to eggs and now I'm allergic to eggs. who's giving who the farts? I don't know. I don't know what we had. I don't know. It would have been me giving her the farts, something, something I ate. So I don't know. I don't know what I had, but it's, it's rocking us tonight. Yeah. But as I was going to say, um, We've got some friends that have bought here. and with the way things have gone for us, do you still even want to buy? Not right now. Not any time soon. What would make sense? Like, do you think it's going to get better? No. Yeah, think there would have to be something crazy like a war. that's funny. I thought we weren't supposed to have any more of those. Yeah. We'd to see. ⁓ shit just fluctuates all the time. But I don't know. our income would have to go up immensely. Like we'd have to be making some, I mean, I'm studying to be a real estate agent. So I'm gonna have to buy a house at some point of my own. ⁓ I'm a real estate agent that just rents. 25 years and hell no ain't buying no house. Hell you buy a house but I'm not buying. I'm that stupid. That's the worst decision you could make. ⁓ yeah, so we'll have to get into, I mean, and I've always talked about getting into real estate just being a real estate agent, but owning real estate so that we can pass down. Yeah. We just have to kind of like get the ball rolling there and we got already yet Because I like to forget I like to forget and we're digging ourselves out of that bankruptcy hole. Yeah Was that a chapter 13 or a 7? We didn't have any we didn't own anything. No chapter 13 is you have to like be over a threshold of income like there's an income threshold Damn, chapter seven's for if you're broke and you gotta go bankrupt. That's when you got no money left. Yeah, because chapter seven writes off everything, whereas a chapter 13, like you can keep your house, you can keep your vehicles, you can keep your business or whatever. OK, we didn't have any assets, so you're just broke. Broken getting broker. We got to keep our car, but. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Straight to jail. bankruptcy was probably the best decision we ever made for our lives in that moment. Have we talked about this before? I don't know. I don't know either. I don't think so. Yeah. But it was worth it. Yeah, I definitely. I definitely agree. I have to agree because it was getting scary and daunting there for a second. Things were stacking up. were looking at $130,000 in debt. Like some that's, could be a lot of money, but that's a lot of money when you don't have any assets to show for it. Yeah, you're right. And mind you, this wasn't just like, we didn't rack up 130,000 in credit card debt. This was a. what $35,000 truck that went kaput on you after like a year of having it. Yeah, Ford. Super Duty. $75,000 in medical debt. And... That happened real fast. For Mila and giving birth to Mila and everything else leading up. So yeah, it was a lot of things, but best decision we ever made. And now we're coming out of it fine. It's been a process, but we would we were able to get our vehicle about two years after our bankruptcy. So yeah, it's possible to Rebuild and yeah, I feel like we're at that seven-year mark ish We are I think yeah, we're at that seven-year mark. So things will be a little Bit easier if we start having that buying discussion again. Mm-hmm. Oh Damn, we're being sickness. Everybody got the sickness. Yeah now she's sick But yeah, what else were we gonna chat about? My tummy hurts. Aliens? Were we? I feel like we gotta chat about aliens. What do we need to chat about? There's a new documentary about Bob Lazar on Amazon Prime. Okay, I haven't seen that. It's pretty cool the way they made it. Who's Bob Lazar, first of all? Bob Lazar used to work at... S4, it's this place at Papoose Lake in Nevada, right? It's like area 51, okay? So he got hired whoever, a private company to work this hangar ⁓ because he's ⁓ he's into like making things go You know, like jet propulsion. used to put, he put like a rocket engine on a really cool convertible car. So listen, he gets hired, right? He's walking through this building ⁓ and he sees this fucking craft with an American flag on And he's like, ⁓ that's cool. These, no wonder why people think we got aliens. It's because we've got this cool technology we've been working on in secret. And lo and behold, they're like, no, this ain't ours. We don't know where it's from. We're trying to find out. All that information, right? So he only lasts there for like six months before he starts whistle blowing. And that, I believe, was like... I think that happened in like the 70s. Anyways, ⁓ he's been on a couple podcasts and he's really like... ⁓ He's got some... some of his own docu-series and such, just about all the things he got to see ⁓ in that short time frame. But they made a documentary and they're working with these people who do really cool like digital design using like 3D scanning and AI. And they made a documentary by like most of the stuff in this movie is CGI. But it's like everything is a spitting image from this dude's memory. They've been working on it for like four years and it's pretty cool. So yeah, if I were you, I'd check it out. It's a documentary, but it's... But CGI. Yeah. There's CGI in the documentary just for like reenactments type of things? It's a reenactment of everything that, all the stories he told that ended up being true. Now I know who you're talking about. Okay, cool. Yeah, so him and this other guy that do really cool, ⁓ like 3D imagery type stuff, they've been working together for a few years to make this documentary. That's cool. About what had happened to it more like, just give you a visual of what he was talking about. Yeah. ⁓ Okay, so how's the poop? How's the dookie? Was there corn in it? Did we have corn? I've had corn in my poop all week. When did we have corn? All week. The first time I noticed poop in my corn, had eaten Poop in your corn? Fuck. The first time I noticed corn in my poop, I had had it like within a few hours. It was when I had those corn ribs, the corn spears, corn ribs. ⁓ yeah. Within a few hours, I had... full kernels of corn. I fried the hell out of those in the air fryer, right? They're all shriveled. They came out of my butt full of life and bright. I fried hell out of those in the air fryer, right? They're all shriveled. ⁓ They came out of butt full of life and bright. Aren't you one that told me that the reason that happens is because corn is GMO so it fixes in your gut? I don't know about the GMO part but I heard somewhere or saw somewhere that yeah, it repaired it like self repairs while it's on your way to your digestive system. That's been a thing since we were little. It's like, oh, you have corn. Like it's going to come out whole in your poop. So it's like, am I not chewing all my food or is the corn literally fixing itself in my gut? Yeah. I always thought that the corn- there was a skin and you would chew out all the guts of the skin and it would fill back up with fluid but it would be like it would not look like corn if you No it would be wrinkled. It would be wrinkled skin. And then it filled up with poop juice. So yeah I think it just regrows itself and I think that is a testament to life. Like that should be a metaphor for like no matter what happens to you, no matter what you go through in life. Be like corn. Be resilient. That's about it. I got a vasectomy coming up. Yeah. Friday. It's getting closer and closer. It's you want to do before ⁓ want to say or anything before. ⁓ ⁓ let's bottle up that sperm bro. ⁓ my God. Is that a thing people do? Like, why wouldn't you like, ⁓ you ever thought of like changing your mind? Yeah. Like I wonder what the shelf life is of it. Cause I know you can freeze it. on. mean, they have sperm banks for years and years and years. So yeah. Yeah. But they want to keep it. They're like, no, we'll take care of it for you. Thank you. Put it in this cup. ⁓ you later, sir. And then you have no idea where fuck your sperm goes. ⁓ that's, ⁓ I know, but what I'm saying is like they have sperm banks, so it's gotta be years that it is. about to ruin my, I'm about to do this in incognito mode. Even though I heard with Google or whatever that it doesn't, they're like, it's like fake. Okay. Okay. Here we go. ⁓ Can I store. semen to How could I word this? To use in the future. Yeah, but they're gonna be like, uses what? Like a facial cream? Like, what are you trying to use it for? What? So I think I to be specific to... Who is using that as facial cream? I think it's a thing. Salmon sperm, for sure. That's a thing. No, I think, I'll ask that next. How can I store my semen to impregnate, impregnate? No, it's seriously a thing because people who go through cancer treatment. my semen in preg- Okay. To store your semen for a future pregnancy, you must use a professional process called sperm bank. They want to keep it. Or cryopreservation. It's not possible to successfully freeze sperm in a standard home freezer as they cannot reach their required temp of- Okay, we just need to get them to a required temp of negative 196 to negative- 321 degrees Fahrenheit. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. So if we could do that, if we could do that. Yeah. That's like Mila's stem cells are in like a cryo, a cryobank type of, Luca's stem cells. Yeah, is a hustle. We are getting hustled for those stem cells. now we can't afford to use them, but we have to keep paying. We paid 2,500 to store them initially. Okay. The whole reason we decided to store them though was because LifeBank said that if your child has a CP diagnosis, you can store some cells for free. You just have to pay the storage fee, but you don't have to pay the initial setup. So that's why I moved forward with it and then come to find out the doctor wrote a letter and said like, this is Mila's diagnosis. But because in there, one of the diagnosis was intractable epilepsy. then they no longer waived the fee for us to store it. So we had to pay the 2,500 to get those stem cells initially stored. They took them after I had him ⁓ in the hospital. Unfortunately, they do have to like cut the cord right away so that you can get all the stem cells from the cord blood. ⁓ We cord blood, tissue and placenta. And we pay $400 a year to keep them stored. That's insane. It sounds like it's similar for semen. It's about... 500 and a thousand um initially and then annual storage fees 150 to 500 bucks a year. Yeah it's not worth it. How old are we? think I'm 34. Are you 34? Am I about to be 34? Ethan about to be 34. Oh gosh. I feel old. Yeah, 34. You're about to be 34. Okay, great. What'd you see the other day that made you feel old? It was like the 25 We were watching the new Super Mario movie with the kids. And it's the Shrek 25th year reunion. Damn. I'm like, dang, because I felt like Shrek came out when I was an adult. It didn't though. We were definitely children. were what? No. Not really. were like in the sixth grade, Seventeen. Seventeen when Shrek came out, you're smoking rocks. When were you born? Ninety-eight? Wait, what? Shrek 1 was 2001, bro. We were like 10 years old. Nine, nine and ten. Okay. children. Okay. Seventeen. When Shrek came out. 17? You know what songs were on the first track album? I'm a believer, Okay, and we were 17. What songs were we listening to? I don't know. Gucci Mane, Kesha. Oh, and we were 17. Yeah. I had some Kendrick up in there. No, you didn't. There's no way you were on Kendrick when you were 17 years old. You know who got me onto Kendrick Lamar? Elaine, but you had to be like 18, 19 years No, no. I graduated at 17. Remember, I'm young for our grade. OK. I graduated at 17, and then I turned 18 like a month later after graduation. No, we were senior year. We were bumping Kendrick. And no you weren't. Yes we were 100%. Call her up and ask her. No you Text her and ask her. yes she put me onto Kendrick, senior year. I'm not buying it. I swear. Look up his first album. I remember getting Froyo with her. 2011 bro, you had just graduated. His debut album was July 2nd, 2011. Okay, then yeah, I lied. I know you did. That wasn't senior year. Cause that would have made beat me. That would have been her freshman year of college. telling all them damn stories. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, For sure. I definitely thought it was high school. That's crazy. I remember rolling up to the South Hill Target listening to Kendrick. That's crazy. Remember that? That's when he was new and now he's an old head. He's like a... that's old head music. Who says old head? Old heads. Who says that? The young whippas snappers. The young whippas snappers say old head? You're an old head? Or they call me unc. Who? The youngsters, the youths. Who? I need specifics. The youths. Who do you think? The youths? Yeah. need a name of somebody who's who you know, that's a young whippersnapper ⁓ that calls you an old head. No, I'm not saying me specifically. I'm just. Okay. Well... Cuz I know all the... I... Might be bald. That's crazy. That's crazy work. Okay. This baby is losing her mind. Let's call it. We're calling it? Yeah, let's call it. We can call it. Should we talk about anything important? We didn't talk about our kids. Should we talk about our kids? ⁓ Okay. What's to talk about? Luca learned how to ride a bike ⁓ with no wheels in like two days. with no training wheels. No training wheels. Lenin? Okay, took these little Negroes fishing. ⁓ Lenin casts like ⁓ fish on. She's She's really good. She's been practicing. She's casting her little pole into the street. Why is there a ball on her Because she lost her fish. It has like a fake fish that she can cast for practice. And she lost it. So you put a ball on there? She was casting it over our fence in the backyard. Yeah, for practice. Lost the fish. And into the street. And then, yeah, so now she just, they, on garbage can day, they like to try to get it on Sunday night, the day before garbage can day. They were shooting them in the garbage can from across the street. was cute. that's cute. Well, was able to get it in the garbage can. That's cute. But yeah, ⁓ what else? What's Mila doing? Mila's... Mila is Mila Loster Therapist. Not literally. He got... He's down. He's gotten sick. Yeah, he is. He has cancer, so ill Yup. ⁓ But anyway, so he's sick. ⁓ He is And so right now she is not getting ⁓ PT. We're on a wait for Napa so she can do spider cage once a week. then we're looking. titties. She bouncing baby. She's desperate. You're talking too much. And then we're looking into she's having fun. Possibly doing a second pool day instead of doing like another PT and home session. So we'll see. sessions a week. Yeah. be cool. Mila's pool PT is really overloaded because she took half of Mila's old PT's load. ⁓ So we'll see. But right now it's been good. It's been nice having like one extra day where we don't have scheduled therapies. It's nice because every day is so busy. ⁓ So yeah, we'll see. We might do another pool day because Mila loves pool. She loves swim therapy. It is her favorite thing in the world. So that's what she's doing. That's what all our kids are doing. Yeah. But yeah, excited to be back in the flow of things. Yeah. We're going to keep it real and. We're not gonna let the haters bring us down. Yeah, I think let the bastards bring you down. Today was a ramble. Couple of geese. I think we needed to get it out. It felt good, but I like this. This is rhythm right here. Yeah. This is what people can listen to while they ride, while they cruise now. don't know. I feel like I want to change the music again. Dude. What y'all think? Yeah, let us know. You can comment on episode. Think it's some jazz. And leave a review. And also let us know what you think about our question, ⁓ if we should change music again. I like it. I think jazz whatever type of style borders on the is it elevator music or is it porn music so I don't really want to go down. ⁓ But that's sexy imagine and some jazz coming and you don't know and you're like this is normalish yeah I don't know I need a new vibe I gotta switch the vibe. you are the one who switched the initial vibe. I know I think I might keep doing it. All right. Keep them guessing. season, new music. 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