speaker-0: Ever had a testing session fall apart because your classroom headphones stopped working? In this episode, I'm joined by Alan Sherborn, Vice President of Marketing at TWT Audio to unpack why most school headsets fail and what it's really costing you. We get into durability, audio quality for AI and multilingual learners, and why more districts are moving back to wired solutions. If you're tired of replacing headphones every year, this episode is for you. But first, a word from our sponsor, TWT Audio. Are your students dealing with broken headsets, poor audio quality, or unreliable microphones at moments that matter the most? TWT Audio was built for educators by educators, designing headsets specifically for real classroom environments, durable enough to last, and comfortable for all-day use. With over five million headsets and headphones sold, schools trust TWT because they just work, delivering consistent performance while simplifying technology. Instead of replacing cheap headsets year after year, invest in a solution that schools nationwide trust every day. TWT Audio, hear the difference.

speaker-1: I'm currently the vice president of marketing for TWT Audio, formerly the administrator of technology and innovation for CTE for Orange County Public Schools in Florida. I've had probably about, let's say close to 10 years in education, been in the classroom, taught CTE. Also, I coached baseball. I was a computer tech for a while, so I was a school tech for a few years, district tech, system engineer, network engineer. So I got the balanced budgets and. order really cool and fun technology for students. I'm actually very jealous. They get a lot of really cool stuff today, stuff that I didn't have. But yeah, just the learning tools and the different technology they have today, it was just my goal to help students succeed. And that's what I did during my time in education.

speaker-0: Sounds good, man. And now you're over at TWT Audio, right? Sounds good. Well, welcome to the show. I appreciate you taking the time to be here. I know that we've had conversations and we kind of had some conversations leading up to this big conversation. And we are here to discuss TWT Audio and what you guys are contributing to our educational space when it comes to audio and headsets for our students in the classroom. So how did you kind of find yourself in this role, man? How did that come about? have to ask.

speaker-1: That's right. Yeah. No, that's pretty funny actually. So after I left education, I worked for a reseller called Bloom, phenomenal people there. And through them, I was able to see and demo a lot of technology that we would also sell back to the school districts all over the nation. And we get to see best practices. We get to see a lot of cool stuff. TWT stood out from a lot of others for me. And aside from the durability and everything that they do with the product, It was really their mission. It's for educators by educators and it truly is. So the company was founded by a tech director in California who he just got tired of replacing cheap headsets. And he's like, there's got to be a better way. And he had a great network and a lot of very cool resources and stuff. And he was able to produce these, these headsets that I think are some of the best headsets that you could ever get in education. It's definitely the best that I've ever, I've ever seen. So selling that and being from education and spending tons of money on headsets year after year, actually it was almost like month after month, but being able to really have something that was durable, something that made a lot of sense, it was crystal clear, like it just worked and it didn't break the bank. Like that to me just, you know, said all the right things and really made me a huge champion of TWT Audio and I'm very proud to represent them now as their VP.

speaker-0: As you're talking through that, in education, one of the things that we often do as educators is we look for red flags. But what it sounds like is you saw green flags go up. You said it checks this, it checks that, it checks that.

speaker-1: I did, man. Yeah, so their mission, their vision, they identified those red flags up front, again, from experience. And that really touched home to me because there's nothing like trying to support ⁓ a classroom of students testing and headset breaks or audio isn't working and, is it an IT issue? Is it a hardware issue? Right now, testing is probably delayed or could even be invalidated. So there's lots of things that can happen from a 10 or $15 headset going wrong. And for me, there's no rhyme or reason to really put yourself in that predicament to jeopardize students' futures. again, having that sense of confidence and with the reliability and durability that TWT pushes forward, mean, just gave me peace of mind.

speaker-0: That's awesome, man. So I'm glad that you touched upon those points because that actually leads to one of my first, one of my questions here is in education, we deal with broken headphones all the time. You mentioned it, you know, just a little while ago. You're constantly dealing with broken headphones. We deal with like poor craftsmanship and quality because a lot of times what companies will do is they'll put together budget friendly and budget friendly at times does not necessarily equate to quality. And on the flip side, there's also and me being a self-proclaimed audiophile, horrible quality in just the audio experience. But you guys are doing something different at TWT Audio. So how are you guys combating those three things? We're at broken headsets, weak microphones, and just weak quality overall, and just bad audio quality.

speaker-1: So broken headset part, mean, just on that briefly. So they identified those red flags and TWT, we invest in higher quality material. We look at the different break points, you know, traditionally, what were those? Was it the cable? Was it the tip on the 3.5 millimeter jack? Because I don't know how many times I've taken a little straw and try to like fish that little bead out of like broken devices and stuff. But then again, you know, there's other issues with that and it takes a lot of time and doesn't always work. you know, they have, TWT has breakaway adapters that gives stress relief on the cable and on the connectors. They support USB-A, USB-C. Again, like I'm going to take my headset that I currently have and I can turn this thing inside out. I can twist it. I can do all sorts of really cool stuff. And it goes right back to fully functional working and You know, it's meant for the classroom. So traditionally today, there's a good handful of schools and districts that purchase consumer products for education. These headsets and these headphones are designed for the classroom. They're designed to take a beating. They're designed to be in a book bag all day and get shuffled around or be in a cart and get tossed, fall off a table, fall off a desk. Students have a tendency to chew, right? Never. Yeah, these are chew-resistant cables. Again, it's reinforced, as you can see, even with the headband, right? All the way down to the headband. And for the price point, like it meets all the needs. So for me, like there was no other option. TWT really, you know, they hit it out the park with broken headsets and our failure rate. out of over a million headsets is literally 0.007 or less. And I only remember that because of James Bond 007, right? But yeah, it's one of my favorites. The weak microphone, so this is a cool story. The guy who produced and engineered a lot of what TWT is, he is a musician, he's a producer for Grammy award-winning artists like Elton John and whatnot. Like this guy is the real deal. Like once you get to meet this guy, he he breaks it down to levels that I, as a former IT director and everything else, I've never even heard of, right? But just hearing the audio, not just input, but also the output that's going back out, it's just phenomenal for the price. So for him, he really took the time to balance. all those highs and those lows, the treble, the bass, and the mid-range and everything in between. Like this guy totally understands audio and music and engineering and really happy that, you you can just plug it in. You don't have to install any drivers or anything and it just works. So that's how TWT is really trying to fix a lot of those issues that do exist in education with those cheaper headphones, with those cheaper headsets, because with today's age, and we saw it with COVID, with today's age, digital learning, all sorts of ⁓ digital instruction, testing, hybrid. I mean, you're doing more than just listening, right? You're now recording and now it's assessing it back and then now you throw AI on top of that, right? So AI is looking for tones, AI is looking for this and that, and it has to be clear, And when you, and I understand why people go cheap, right? Because they have a budget and this and that, you still have to meet the need. And I'm very fortunate that a superintendent that kind of guided me through my career said, Alan, it doesn't matter what the price is to an extent, as long as you meet the need. If it doesn't meet the need of the student or the educator, then you're just throwing money away and you're custodian of public dollar. So you need to be responsible for everything that you do and think about not just them and not just for the now, but also the sustainability of those products too, right? So is that going to be just for this year? Is that going to be for the next three years? so on and so forth.

speaker-0: So it sounds like you have a straight up audio engineer who had their hand in this.

speaker-1: Yeah, that's like I said, Grammy award-winning producer, everything like this guy is phenomenal, man. He's amazing.

speaker-0: You know, you guys sent me a box to kind of look at and give some feedback in that I'm purposely wearing the lights I'm purposely wearing the light because and I said it in the video. I have a big head I could have got the duro I could have got the the Revo and just had the cans over my ears But I said no I'm gonna use I'm gonna use the set that More than likely a lot of the schools will probably this will be their entry point into TWT audio. They're comfortable I can hear clearly I mean I don't have to use this microphone, but it's there. And you nailed the nail on the head when you said, you know, we have USB-C, we have USB-A and 3.5 millimeters. So it's beautiful that districts and schools get to choose what fits their needs because, you know, a lot of times headphone companies will say, ⁓ we could do 3.5, which is all good until you get iPads or not iPads, but you get a device that doesn't have 3.5. Or you need a dongle or an adapter or vice versa. Well, we got the USB-C's. We have the iPad 9, you know, that has lightning or what have you. So now we have to go out and buy $35 adapters. And you know how those goes are done. Once a student gets their hands on them.

speaker-1: lose adapter. So I'm actually working with the school district right now where they just purchase some newer devices and it only has USB-C on there. It does not have the 3.5 millimeter jack. And there was a debate, hey, we could save a lot of money and go with the little adapters. And I said, well, just like a lot of little things that you guys purchase, you know, me being a technology reseller in the past, I said that stuff gets lost, stolen, know.

speaker-0: student background

speaker-1: ends up in a backpack, right? Like, you know, we've lived it. We know it. We understand what's going to happen. And then at the end of the day, you're just going to keep you're actually introducing another problem because now you have to find a budget to keep refreshing this new thing that you've like entered in that doesn't really solve the issue. You're just putting band aids and not actually fixing a solution or fixing an issue with a solution. Yeah.

speaker-0: So when you grab your headset right now and you flipped it I'm not gonna lie my stomach turned because I was real careful with mine Yeah, I didn't I didn't want to accidentally break it but there That's proof of concept right there

speaker-1: All day long, all day long. I can't tell you how many people, how many teachers and administrators I've shown that to where I'm like, go ahead, do it. Like just mess with it, try your best. Cause at the end of the day, students are going to do it too, right? And typically what happens snaps here, wires come out, all of us. Nope. So again, TWT, you know, when I first talked to them, bring flags all over the place, they really did their homework. They really did the research. And I'm just, again, super proud to know that. We're not just a headset company. We actually believe in the product and we do listen to the feedback. So we had a school district that talked about the little control volume, the inline controls and all that. that's, that's typically a break point because it's usually two pieces of plastic that, that, that's molded together. And then inside you have components and wires and that's very sensitive and students will pick at it and they'll play with it. Right. So we said, Hey, you know what, let's remove that whole part. and the volume controls mute and unmute, we don't need that in here. We can just simply put that in a function of microphone up here and it'll mute itself. So we have a flip up mute on all these headsets. So when they go up, it just breaks the connection and it's now muted. And that again was more secure than having a little piece of plastic here that just protected very vital parts of the headset. And it was a very easy point of failure. You'll see that typically with a lot of consumer products because it's cheap to manufacture. We're not looking at being the cheapest. We're looking at being the best for education specifically. Yes, it does cost a penny or two more, but it goes a long way.

speaker-0: Yeah, when you start adding up the cost after the fact, like, ⁓ yeah, we saved, you know, we might've saved, you know, like a couple thousand dollars by doing the dongles. After year two of repurchasing and fishing them out and doing all that because they're jammed in there, you're way over budget. You should've just worked with the set that had that built in.

speaker-1: Right. way over That's a common trend. So we often talk about total cost of ownership. With total cost of ownership, the initial price of something may be cheaper today. But like you said, when you look at it two or three years down the line, you spent more money trying to bandage an issue that probably wouldn't have existed had you spent that extra 10 or 20 bucks or a dollar, $2, whatever it may be to get the thing that you actually needed versus I chased the lowest bid.

speaker-0: So I have my other set of headphones here and I'll tell you this, the first thing that usually goes on my headsets that I use like for podcasting and that are these pads. And I have to, it's like already on, as a matter of fact, I might even have a subscription on Amazon like every so often just keep sending me more pads because I'm gonna swap them out or whatever. But that's usually one of the first things that go, cause there's three things that in my experience working in schools and school districts for 20 plus years, There's three things that go. The ear pads, and even if they don't go, there's always a...

speaker-1: That sticks to your skin

speaker-0: but you get that student or somebody who uses them and they're not the best with the hygiene. And then another student gets them and they look at them and they're like, I don't remember this juice being on them before, you know? So it's the ear pad, it's the connection to the device, whether it be 3.5 or what have you. And then it's the connection on the other end to the actual headset. Now, when I first saw your product at a trade show, I think it was Kurt. Kurt broke down how TWT is, much different than others. I don't want to spoil it, man. You take

speaker-1: it away. So we'll touch the ear pad first because I have nightmares of all that stuff just flaking all over the place. I'm like grabbing a whole box full for students and it's all over my hands and the kids are like I don't want to put it on or you know so yeah and then obviously we threw COVID in there too earlier so the whole hygiene and sanitation thing was a thing. With TWT we have interchangeable ear cups and we do have the leatherette but then we also have the moisture wickering ones too. And the moisture-wicking ones is actually this one. These are super comfortable. These are insanely comfortable. So if the headset breaks, first off, you have a two-year warranty. Good hands with TWT. But for whatever reason, you're outside the warranty and the headset breaks and you just, it's just the ear cup or, you know, the cushion, then you don't have to replace the whole headset. You just replace the ear cup and it just pops right in and they're labeled left or right. So we just go in there and we just throw that in and it just goes, boom. that's popped in and you know what, if I missed both of them or they got damaged or I'm just a student that is coming from PE all the time and I'm trying to be conscious of sweating all over the place, hey, I might carry my own and they're easy to interchange, but that's with sanitation in mind. Again, we listen to the customers, we get all that feedback and we want to make it efficient. If a cable breaks and we have the Revo line, which is they have interchangeable cables, you don't have to replace a whole headset, right? That's a lot of money. So why not replace it with like a five or $10 cable and, you know, just save yourself the $40, $50 from purchasing a very expensive headset. Like you get so much more for your buck because you have the longevity and sustainability.

speaker-0: you get the better life cycle out of the devices when you have to swap one or two things out rather than, I now have to buy a new headset because of these two pads that are not interchangeable. still, I mean, I've seen scenarios where students will wear, the teachers will make the student wear, you know, hard plastic on an ear and they're like DJ, you know, they're doing one of these cock to the side because this one hurts because it's got no pad.

speaker-1: in that.

speaker-0: Yeah. the fact that you guys did that was, was just genius. So he actually stopped me in my tracks cause he popped off and it was, it was a Revo and he popped off the earpiece and then he pulled out that pin and just took the cable out and said, let's pop in a new cable. And I literally stopped and said, wait, what? And he put it back together, threw it on and it was business as usual.

speaker-1: And no downtime to instruction, right? So, and that's the other thing you got to consider, right? Because if you do a warranty replacement on something and you you got to send it off and wait for it to come back, that could be a week or two, depending on, you know, who you're sending it to, what the company is, whatever it may be. If you have these pads and you're like, hey, you know what, I'm going to put this in my budget to have a couple extra pads and maybe some extra cables in my testing labs. Then, you you have next to no downtime in your testing environment. It saves you a lot of time and money in the long run.

speaker-0: Yeah. And I'm glad that you brought testing up because it's we're gearing into testing season. know, with a lot of our English language learners and emerging bilinguals that we have here in Texas, you know, there's that listening and speaking component of the exam that they have to have to listen. And you can't do that in a room full of other students without headsets. It's just impossible. So right now, schools are scrambling to find as many working headsets that way they could start getting that PO ready to purchase so that they have all those headsets ready for testing. And then not only that, but you gotta make sure that they have a microphone, a working microphone. like, yes, a clear microphone, one that doesn't sound like you're talking into a tin can, you know? That's the worst when you get, man, never again, Dollar Tree, forget it. And then like you mentioned earlier, there's AI components already built into the grading and to the feedback pieces for students. If the AI can't hear,

speaker-1: You

speaker-0: the difference between certain syllabins, certain sounds, you know, the D and the B and the R and the D and things like that, it might accidentally give students an incorrect grade or some incorrect feedback and the students now confuse teachers or like, man, you know, we'd worked so hard on this. So the fact that it's very clear and it's accessible and it, like you said, I think the best part besides the physical components and the fact that you can replace them on the sets like the Revo in that, But the part that admin and leadership aside, we're talking in class teachers who actually give instruction and work with students one-on-one every day. No software, nothing to install. They just work. That right there says it all. There's nothing worse than purchasing devices, auxiliary things, and peripherals only to find out that you need some driver. And then now, it's blocked by your firewall and your IT department has to get on it and then build in through MSS, build something and push it out to your faculty. And by then they're collecting dust in the corner.

speaker-1: Yep. And then you got delays and variance reports and you got all these things that all these ones. Yeah, I've been through all that too. Yeah. So ESL, ESOL, it's very close to my heart. So again, former administrator for CTE and all that. So those programs fell under me, but my own mother was a student. She was a runaway immigrant from Taiwan. And the American dream for her was to learn English. And I remember putting her into these programs and her having headsets that you know, she would talk to me and do her pronunciations and tones and she would do this and it would fail in the mic and it would fail when she's doing these assessments and it really bumped her out, you know, and I'll probably gift her some TWA headsets for Christmas. But I just I remember, you know, having my own mother as a student and one of my programs and seeing that the moralized student and adult student nonetheless, like that was that was rough for me, man. And There's a philanthropy side of me that says, hey, you know what, do what's best for people and always put people first. To me, that's what TWT is doing. I spoke with the teacher, it was probably about two weeks ago, and she was telling me, Alan, you know, we're having a very big issue with AI. And I'm like, okay, AI is like a trigger word for a lot of things right now. It's a little more detailed, right? She's like, well, live translation. people are bringing in earbuds, wireless earbuds, they connect to their phone, they have an AI assistant. So it invalidates the integrity of the exam, right, of the testing environment. And then when they have those in, they can also, because there's a mic too, it'll pick up and it'll live translate back and they'll use that to cheat on an exam or trying to get an advantage. you know, it's just, it's not fair, but you know. me coming from the administrator side and you as an educator, you know that anytime cheating is involved or there's a potential of that, like there's red flags all over the place. So now I've seen where some districts, including the district from that this teacher was in, where they're looking at 100 % wired connected headphones and headsets just because of, you know, smart watches and smart glasses. And now with AI and earbuds and being connected to other devices. mean, that device could be in a locker and you're still connecting to it because, you know, Bluetooth or whatnot. But it's just, it's a whole new thing that, to be honest, I oversaw too. Like I didn't realize, ⁓ wow, like, yeah, live translation is great. We love it. But in education, you know, it can be a risk. And any administrator, when they see a risk, you know, they have to act because that's their job. That's their certificate on the line.

speaker-0: Yeah, if you start invalidating scores, now we're talking money. And that's, mean, I hate that I even have to say this, but that's when districts really start putting the foot down and start really, really looking at things through a fine tooth comb. And like you said, we're doing wired connections on everything. Yeah, absolutely. So if I'm purchasing some headsets, I go to your website, I get some information and I'd like to order a couple of class sets kind of thing. What's that turnaround look like?

speaker-1: So it depends on the method you go, right? So you can purchase on our website, turnaround time, it depends on where you live in the US, right? If you live in the Continental 48 states, you're getting a lot quicker, a lot faster outside the Continental US, it might take an extra week or so. But as soon as we get those orders in, we're shipping them out. So it really depends on really, you know, your shipping method. If you use a value added reseller or you go through the channel, then, you know, there's two or three more hands involved, right? Cause it's got to go to... distributor then it's got to go to your reseller and it can go directly to you. all again it just depends on the method of purchase but we are available on Amazon we are available at our website through Shopify on TWT audio but if you're looking for hey I'm looking at bulk orders I'm looking to maybe bundle this with devices so I don't have to go and put out two different POs I can put it all in one and save a lot of time and money. We're starting to see a lot of that now. We're able to utilize our logistics to say, you know, it's coming from the same distributor, it's maybe in the same warehouse, let's see how we can save them money and save the districts so that they can use that funding for something else, for PD or for other technology. Let's make it work for them. Because at the end of the day, we're educators. We're here to help them too, because we understand the pain points. We know that money might not be guaranteed tomorrow. It could go away in a heartbeat. It probably won't be here next year. That's a very real thing. But at the same time, we build a product that's sustainable so that it lasts more than the warranty. So we put out a two-year warranty, but on average, statistically, our devices, our headsets and headphones last 3.7 years.

speaker-0: Whoa, that's unheard of. can't, my AirPods don't even last out.

speaker-1: I've bought a few of those in the past.

speaker-0: Yeah, I'm back at Costco every two years. No, left. Yeah. Wow. So so you're telling me that you ship outside the US. like statistically, how many headsets have you guys sent out kind of thing? You know, give us some numbers if you can.

speaker-1: man, to be honest, I'm so fresh in it. That's a logistics thing. I would have to, I would have to get with the logistics or sorry, with the operations. Yes, we do. Yes, we do.

speaker-0: Okay, you are no longer a national company, you are international. what you're saying. Okay. Sounds good. Sounds good. Give us the website information and how people can learn more, man.

speaker-1: Yes. So check us out at TWTaudio.com. You can find us on social media, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, X. We post on there on the regular. Check out our blogs. We go to EdTech shows. We'll be at McCall coming up. We'll be at Site, Q, ISTE, FETC. All those shows will definitely be there. If not, we're also, we have a great partner network with a lot of value-added resellers where you can see our products and ask for demo requests to try us out.

speaker-0: All right, sounds good. Well, real quick, if you can, what are some of the models you have and kind of a little talking point about each one, like the differentiator? for

speaker-1: Yeah, so we have four different series. We have the light, which is your entry level. We do have it with the mic and without the mic. Those, they also do all that.

speaker-0: ⁓ I'm still not doing it, man. I'm scared. I'm scared.

speaker-1: Yep. So very durable, very cost efficient. The next one up from that is the Ergo. So the Ergo's, that's the one I'm wearing right now. It's on the ear, but it's ergonomically designed at an angle for long-term learning and listening. I don't know why my mic went, my camera went up, but it did. It just shifted. But yeah, the Ergo is for just your long testing sessions, your long-term learning.

speaker-0: Yeah, where's your shifter?

speaker-1: for long duration. And then we have the Duro, which the Duro is an over the ear model. That one is insanely comfortable. It's built with more ruggedness, cushion padding in the headband. And then we have the Revo, which is that interchangeable, the cream of the crop of what TWT offers. You can replace the cables, you can replace the ear cups, you can use the moisture wickering ones if you want. The audio, regardless of any of the four that you choose, it's crystal clear. It's made again for educators, for education from educators themselves that been through the whole thing. Like we're doing it from experience. We listen to customer feedback. I would probably highlight that as one of our biggest pros is that we listen to you because we want to make it right. Cause we understand. We want that.

speaker-0: That's awesome. And I will say, the one word that I would use to describe both the Duro and the Revo is thump. Those things, like for a minute, I think my wife was like trying to say something to me and I was into it, man. I was into it. That audio came in crystal clear. And then I did like a test with the microphone and I played it back. You guys just hit it out the park, man. You guys had-

speaker-1: There's one thing that I want to clarify from from all that, because often we hear we want a noise canceling headphone or headset. TWT audio is a noise reduction. There's a purpose for that. So think of it as you're a student that's in a computer lab. Exactly. So they have to know it's to get the students attention. If there's a fire going on, God forbid, you know, they're active shooter or whatever it may be. Right. you need to be aware of your surroundings. You need to be aware of the alarms and everything that goes on. So yes, you can purchase noise canceling headsets and headphones from other sources and other places, but that's dangerous. It's a risk. And we've identified that as something that, you know, we want to make sure that it's a safe environment for students and whoever's using it, but also that it reduces the sound and the noise from outside distractions or what have you. so that you can concentrate and stay focused on the task in front of you.

speaker-0: squirrel moments as I like to call it. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely man. Anything else that you'd like to plug for TWT man? Anything else that you'd like to share with everyone?

speaker-1: No, so again, being a former educator, I just want to wish everybody a happy testing season. I know typically the testing season runs in the spring and, you know, end of course exams, state testing, all these assessments, but also be ready for when school comes back into session because you have baseline testing in there too for all those assessments. Right. So that's often overlooked. And I just, again, want to thank you, Gabriel, for everything that you do. And definitely to your listeners for what they do in education. Again, I appreciate any teacher or any administrator that's out there. It's a hard job. It's a hard career, but it means a lot here. ⁓ And that's why people do it. And I can't be any more thankful for what they do.

speaker-0: Well, I'd like to thank you for contributing to our educational space in ways that might be overseen. You know, a lot of times we think of tools, programs, platforms, and we rarely think of hardware, essential hardware at that in education. a classroom, a testing classroom cannot function without these. A student who might have special needs and what's the word I'm looking for, neurodivergent at times can't function, can't access the curriculum without this hardware. and what you guys have done with the hardware and that you're putting out into our schools is just a really, really great product. So I I tip my hat to you guys for everything that you do in our educational space. I do have a couple more questions for you and I purposely left them at the dock. Number one, you're stationed in Orlando, If I'm visiting, call you up, hey, Alan, what's up, man? You want to meet for dinner? You know, I'm here for, you know, one night I got to take off tomorrow. Where are you, ⁓ where am I meeting you at for dinner in Orlando?

speaker-1: There is a place called Tori Tori in downtown Orlando. It doesn't open until usually after 5 30, but it's Asian street food and it's, think it's actually a Michelin star now. Whoa. Yeah. So they have, well, they have a Michelin star chef, but yeah, um, it's phenomenal. They have blue crab fried rice that I've never had anywhere else. Right. They have chicken oysters, which is the most tender part of the chicken. Yeah.

speaker-0: Hit two.

speaker-1: chicken. Super chicken, right? Right. It's it's just flavors that come out of there are phenomenal. I would say yeah, we definitely hit up some Tory Tory man and okay.

speaker-0: Tori Tori, I'm gonna have to check that out next time I'm in ⁓ next.

speaker-1: It's like tapas and stuff like that. Yeah.

speaker-0: I'm a right now too. And then my second question to you is what I like to call my million dollar question. I asked this of about 99.9 % of ⁓ the guests. And the only reason it's not a hundred is every once in a while I'll just forget. Probably the most important question you're gonna be asked all week. So let me know when you're ready, man. Give it to me. All right. Corn tortilla or flour tortilla?

speaker-1: I'm a quarter to your guy,

speaker-0: Hey, there we go. That's why I you on the show while I was recording Crotea Guy myself. That's awesome, man. Well, I appreciate you, Alan, everything you guys are doing over at TWT and, you know, we're gonna cross paths many more times at trade shows and that, and I can't wait to see, and more importantly hear, the future of TWT audio, which you guys are, you know, and technology is getting smaller, it's getting less expensive, and it's getting better, and it's getting faster, and I can't wait to see. what's TWT audio, Revo 2.0, 3.0 and all these other ones that you guys are gonna be engineering and coming up with. So thank you very much for what you contribute, man. And I appreciate you guys.

speaker-1: Let's definitely get a bite.

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