Blu Robinson: Can you see my new car right there? The new orange beast. Josh: Let me see... ⁓ Blu Robinson: That is my new bike that I've been riding. Because I'm not paying $4.30 for unloading. Yes, sir. Like, I got to do, we got to do two of these podcasts, Josh. I've got a bike home. I have to get up and do it all again tomorrow. Getting ready to go to New York. I've got stuff on my plate. How are you doing, sir? Welcome to the Best R in Podcast Show. Wow. Josh: Wow ⁓ we really are recording right now. Yeah I'm doing great. I'm doing great. yeah, wasn't ready. ⁓ Blu Robinson: What did You have a piece of something on your chest. ⁓ glitter? it glitter? Glitter. ⁓ and I, for all the listeners, for all you listeners, you're sad, but Josh and I somehow have gotten the memo to wear all black. What's this? Josh: I know, I'm trying to figure out what that is. I don't know. Could be from the Easter's. I don't know, but I I've been thinking a lot about it. There we go. That's much better. But see, you're a major league team. I'm a minor league team, which I mean, I guess kind of fits, right? You know, but yeah, we're definitely wearing the same thing. And honestly, we talked about this week, I believe, in just how, you know, going through all of these clothes that I have here, I'm Blu Robinson: Here, let me do this. All right. That's Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Josh: putting so I have everything categorized and then I have a bin of everything that I'm not using like I'll give it a little time to go through it and say okay am I gonna wear this I'll do a trial run but then most of it is ending up in the donation pile right because this is the only thing I wear like go back and watch all of the previous episodes Blu Robinson: Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, cleaning house. Josh: This is what I'm wearing. I'm either wearing this or a white or my coral t-shirt. That's all I wear outside of work. Like, it's... Blu Robinson: Yep. Yeah, I think the black shirts make us look thinner, you know, not that you need any help with that, but like, you know, I'm like, hey, I look good in black clothing. The problem is because I'm colorblind, I can justify it. like Marissa is like, you've got 15 of the same t-shirt. And when I'm buying them, it feels like a new experience each time. But she's like, you need to knock it off. Josh: Yes. Yes. No, that's exactly what Marianna's like because I, time I go to ⁓ right? I have to fight really, really with myself not to get a new t-shirt or new shorts, or I just in and I do it because it is. It's like, it's a new experience. like, ⁓ I need another Blu Robinson: Like, I'd look really good in that. Yeah, that's funny. It's an ADHD thing. Josh: And so every time, every time I go to Costco, Marianne has to have that talk with me. It's not me having that talk with myself, you know, which I probably should, especially being an adult. But my, but my wife is just like, all right, Josh, I need you to pick up my meds and I need you to pick up a rotisserie chicken, but no pants, no shirt. Blu Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah. No clothing. You go to score naked. Yep. Yeah, we can't have that. Josh: Well, no, that sounds bad because taken out of context, that would sound like I'm going to Costco naked. So, but no, like I have to fight it. I have to, it's, but I don't know. The ADHD is strong with us, I guess. Blu Robinson: It's the bane of our existence, but Josh, I'm glad to hear you were recording this on the 7th of April. ⁓ can tell you that it looks like we are not really ⁓ the cusp of World War III quite yet. We got a two week extension. I'm just curious, politics aside, how are you navigating these uncertain times, sir? What a crazy chaos. Yo-yo, roller coaster, ⁓ punch, funhouse ride, know, circus. Josh: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: sideshow we've been living in. How are you doing, sir? Josh: You know, I don't know. mean, I'd like to say that I'm just hitching my wagon to Jesus, but, easier said than done because I, I don't know. I mean, new cycles aside, like it just, drives me crazy. Like I, I just have to avoid social media because I feel like every time I'm opening social media, ⁓ something new. Blu Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Josh: And it's something that we've never seen a president. I mean, Blu Robinson: We could take it from the big guy himself. Like you've never seen before. There's a lot of you notice that there's a lot of he says that a lot. He I love it. You've never seen before. We're going to do it like you've never seen before. This has never been seen. We don't want that. We want we want the same. We want calm. We want peace. want harmony. Josh: Yeah, well, that's the thing. Well, yeah, there's and there's ways go about it ⁓ ⁓ mean Yeah, I don't want to make this about politics But ⁓ it I don't know. I mean, it's hard not to because I think everybody takes Blu Robinson: Yeah. talk about it with now we can talk about without picking sides but my thing is is I don't like the bipolarness of it you know it seems to be too flaunty and and and then people say well you know other presidents just do it behind closed doors good keep them there I'd rather not know it would be blissfully ignorant but on the size that note like the the the rash decision-making whoever's letting that man tweet or whatever or X whoever's letting that man X needs to pull that in a little bit like it's weird Josh: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Blu Robinson: the uncouth kind of like f-bombs and stuff in there. like, do we really need that? Like we get that enough in society. I don't think we need that like in other areas. You know what saying? Like that shows me that we can't have conversations and it sucks, man. Are we adults or are we teenagers? kids here? Is it high school? Josh: Mm-hmm. Yeah, well... And I've, tried to get both ⁓ opinion this, right? And it's, it's interesting too, because I, mean, I, I'll, I'll be honest, like I'm, I'm not affiliated with, with a party, ⁓ for very good reason. think both of them are dumb. ⁓ and of very much. ⁓ Blu Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Josh: feed into each other and when I mean the fake outrage a lot of the times just drives me crazy. ⁓ But you know that you're saying something that's unprecedented ⁓ it's getting the unaffiliated or the independent voters or whatever you want to call us ⁓ kind of like okay what's going on? ⁓ when it's like okay. Blu Robinson: Yeah. Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Josh: Like, what are we doing here? Because I've... ⁓ go ahead. Blu Robinson: Well, my funniest thing, Josh, like that, I'm with you on that. Like, my brother lives in Georgia and hadn't seen him for years. And the first thing I said to him is like, I'm holding you responsible for Marjorie Taylor Greene. And he just laughed. He's like, ⁓ yeah, ⁓ the Pulse down here. He kind of laughed about it. When I started agreeing with her, we have problems, you know what saying? Like even she's like, hey, man, the man's ⁓ intense. thing is, is this blind following. Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: that seems a little strange. We're not thinking for ourselves. We're not taking a step back and saying, this isn't normal. And I know that the people that champion that kind of rhetoric and that kind of bullying, they're the ones that voted this. They wanted this. But I'm thinking, this doesn't help anything. I don't like the negative like, Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: I'm going blow you into next week. going to kill ⁓ that walks the ⁓ in that region. That's not, I'm sorry, it's not Christian. It's not okay. ⁓ We want to find peace. We want to try and find harmony. If the master negotiator, we should be able to find some common ground here. I don't like the fact that ⁓ there's been no situational when it comes to things that he even ran for. Groceries are still out of control. Josh: No. Blu Robinson: The Epstein files still are in pieces. know, the inflation is still crazy. don't like that. And I'm thinking, I don't like the guy at all. But I'm thinking ⁓ we vote for him and he get the majority, I'm going to support him. I can't do that this time. Everything ⁓ he's promised has now been lied. So I'm thinking, is he stupid or is he a liar? And don't know what goes on behind closed doors, but I know that like there could be more cooth to this. There could be more. Josh: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: support in like trying to find resolution. think all joking aside, think there, mean, therapist blue here, they can't diagnose him, but he's sick. There's something wrong. I can tell you can tell. I work with, I work with a lot of survivors, Josh, in the in my job, people that had and been in really horrible situations with abuse and sexual abuse and all kinds of stuff. And I'm thinking, ⁓ we have a problem here, Houston. Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: these Epstein files that he ran on the platform of releasing with legitimate. Now we have proof of a lot of sex trafficking happening in our country. And I'm thinking, all right, Q, that weird subgroup, remember a few years ago, Q, they're going to try and expose all this stuff. Where are you guys now? Now we know that the call is coming from inside the house. ⁓ All these organizations like Underground Railroad or whatever the Underground, whatever that thing was with that one ⁓ dude from Utah. Josh: Mm-hmm. ⁓ Yeah. Blu Robinson: you're going out of the country to rescue people that you really didn't do when really the call was coming from inside the house. I get really upset because of the work that I do and the residual effect of trauma that I see when I see people of power hiding behind that power and the money, Josh. And so it's hard for me to support this stuff. And I get to be a little bit more vocal with that with my circle than most because I'm like, I see it in real time. I see it in the jail. I see it the Josh: Ha Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: boots, the ground level boot, know, stomping that we do here trying to get rid of addictions. I see how like we're making all these issues with other countries and stuff and blowing up boats saying they're traffickers. They're not. That's not how drug trafficking works. You don't shoot a boat out of the water that's hauling all this stuff with seven or 12 people on board. That's not how drug smuggling works. You want as little people on that boat as possible because no one wants to share responsibility and no one wants to get caught and give up on the other people. Having more than two people on a boat that you're shooting out of the water, we're not shooting drugs out of there anymore. And it's funny that we haven't shot any more boats out of there. So there's so many things, Josh, that like boots on the ground would say, question this, that it sucks, man, because we're hurting. We're turning against each other. I told you I've heard this in church where people are they're bearing their testimony on this guy. And I'm like, I can't have it. that we're not worshipping this man. We worship the Savior. We worship God. We don't worship this dude in the White House. I wouldn't do that with any president, Democrat, Republican, or Independent. It's hard, man, because I'm like, you want to have fun and I want to cheer for the Artemis rocket. How freaking cool is that? But it's hard to do that when our country's burning. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's Yeah. Right. Well, and there, yeah, a couple of things to add to that too. It was a soapbox. It was a wonderful soapbox. I will buy all of your soap. ⁓ but no, though, like I, ⁓ I hate it because as soon as I disagree with anything with him, ⁓ it's I'm, I'm labeled as Blu Robinson: Man, I'm sorry, yeah. Josh: Liberal or whatever. I'm like, no like just because I disagree you know your or The the president doesn't make me the complete opposite. I like you you don't have to buy in completely because that's that's when That's when start drinking Kool-Aid right ⁓ and and that's when you're really in trouble and so I Blu Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. Josh: It's like, like ⁓ should be disagreements ⁓ in these terms. It doesn't mean that, ⁓ know, I don't want to see, you know, ⁓ don't, I don't want to see him fail because if he fails, then we all completely hurt. Yeah. So, ⁓ at the same time, like, I'm also the first one to criticize the other side of the aisle because ⁓ I'm sorry. Blu Robinson: Yeah. If he fails, we fail. Yeah, absolutely, Josh. Well said. Yeah. Josh: But you know what you're doing? Right? ⁓ all I see from that side as well is I see a lot of disorganization. I don't see a strategic plan. And just ⁓ see ⁓ literally to just focus all of their power into and tearing down. Blu Robinson: Yeah, absolutely man. Josh: the president. And I'm like, that's not gonna help. Like you need a plan. Yeah, like he takes care of that quite well. But Blu Robinson: Mm-hmm. He can do that himself. We don't need you guys helping. Yeah. Dude, I'm telling you, Josh, even our local leadership here, I've been really disgusted at, man. Like, I'm thinking it doesn't matter if you are red or blue. It doesn't matter. You're supposed to be for all of us. And I've had very strong conversations with some of these folks. I don't know if you know this, but I'm on governor's task force for overdose deaths. one of... Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: 12 people. the only civilian on this thing. I don't know how I got picked to be on this. But like, I'm thinking, well, so we talk about this and these deaths that we're seeing and we're trying to reduce it. And it's this mindset of like, we've got to throw law enforcement at it. That's not going to change anything, you guys. We have to go to the core. no one, since everyone works for the state, they can't say that. They have to jump through these hoops. I have the ability not to do that. I'm like, none of this is working. Josh: Well, I mean, you're pretty awesome to boot. Mm-mm. Blu Robinson: These funds that we're supposed to do all this cool stuff with are now being redirected. We lost all of our grants to Addict Athlete. That's fine. I understand. Whatever. be fine without them. But I'm like, are shutting down so many things for people that residual effect is going to be felt for decades. ⁓ People used to be able to have insurance, ⁓ now they have it. It's crazy when start seeing it hurt the people that Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: voted for it. Does that make sense? I'm like, did you guys have any idea? I have friends in the farming communities that are struggling now that are like, well, we all thought this was going to be the case and it's not the case anymore. So it hurts. And you're right, both sides, both the aisle. But our local leaders, man, I'm telling you, like, I don't know what's going on. But it's when you're out there like, I'm sorry, but Burgess Owens, that man, not OK. Like he's off the hinges. And I'm like, what are you doing? Josh: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, yeah. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: Like you are actively trying to divide us deeper. If you go read the social media posts, it's disgusting. And I'm like, that hurts. John Curtis, the man who helped Attic to Athlete become what it is. He's a big part of this. Will not stand up for anything. And I'm like, dude, come on. And I don't know if it's because they're afraid of not being reelected, if they have vested interests. I don't know. But I'm like, we've become so far on a touch with what we all kind of need. Even if you're on the opposite team. The goal here is to make it better. It's not getting better. So it is kind of scary. So I've been watching, I don't watch the news, but I've been watching kind of the temperament of like social media, like it or not. I try to keep my algorithm away from that, but it pops in and I'm like, that sucks. And some of it I'm sure is for, you know, attention and stuff. So what I've chosen to do is like, yeah, my best for me and my family, right? Like that's where we've got to start. It's scary when things are so out of control, but like, Josh: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Blu Robinson: have a lot of faith in a lot of things outside of the realm of mankind that I'm like, hmm, we'll be OK. But like, dang, dude, it's just I don't like the feeling that's happening right now. Can you tell? Like, the pulse is off. Like, how do we get excited about anything? I'm seeing the Artemis rocket. How amazing is this? This is the coolest thing. But it's being drowned out by this blowhardy freaking politicky crap that I'm like, this sucks, man. Like, nothing feels good right now. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, and it's. It is it is the most interesting feeling because I feel that same way as well, like there's there's a lot of conflicted feelings from. ⁓ know, don't want to call the. You ⁓ know, moon stuff like an escape, but really. Blu Robinson: you Josh: It's things like that that give us hope and dreams and make us hopeful about the future. I mean, this is like the first time that they've done this in what, in over 50 years. This is a huge thing, but people are just, no, you know. ⁓ Blu Robinson: Yeah. 50 years. Yeah. Can you imagine what would happen if we turned our attention to like mankind in general? Like what we could do, what we could have, what we could experience instead of like land grabs and power hitters and you ⁓ eat the rich or rich eat the poor, whatever. If we truly gave a darn about each other, what we could accomplish, how cool would it be to see you find out that like, yeah, ⁓ of the ocean's uncharted. Let's go freaking chart that. Let's go see what's down there. It ⁓ sense. ⁓ Josh: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: But no, we spend money on nuclear weapons and planes that drop bombs and all that other bull crap. Like, can you imagine, dude, like what we could do? Like the cool stuff that could happen, the neat things we could have, the experiences that could be, you know, like have. But no, like I'm thinking I've been watching a lot of the Artemis for that reason. I'm like, I don't want anything else. I want to watch something that gives you a little bit of hope and like, oh yeah, there's something else out there, something bigger than this. Josh: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, and that's, yeah, I don't know. Who knows? I probably a whole other conversation, but, you I feel like things like Artemis ⁓ and lot these things that are of getting drowned ⁓ out, I feel are intended to ⁓ be a smoke sometimes. ⁓ And, you know, Blu Robinson: Yeah. There's probably aliens on the other side of that fetching moon. That's we really want. And we won't know because they won't tell us. That's probably what it is. Josh: I know that's all I wanted to know. That's all I wanted to know. just, I like, and why didn't we just bring a huge old flashlight to to like beam on the other side of the moon? Right? Like, ⁓ get the aliens out of the shadows. ⁓ Blu Robinson: Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm. Do know what's crazy though? This is the stuff that I nerd out over. Changing gears completely. This is the stuff I nerd out over. During the Apollo mission when we actually got boots on the ground, literally, right? We had Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, right? Those two, one small step. That was freaking rad. But do know who Michael Collins is? Josh: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, assuming an astronaut if you're talking about that. ⁓ Blu Robinson: Yeah, but who is he? He's the most forgotten man ever. And I love this for this reason. So check this out. I talk about this all the time in therapy group. Collins was the poor sap that had to stay up in the orbiter and get zero credit while the other two dorks went down and put feet on the moon. ⁓ had to be one guy that was up there still orbiting so that he could be like, hey, man, like, welcome back and get everything positioned when they come back. Right. Because you don't want to put that sucker on autopilot. You don't know if that's going to work. So. Michael Collins, listened to an interview by him once, was freaking mind blowing when he said this. He said, they went up, they did the orb out everybody together and stuff, and or whoever, those two JAHUs, Buzz and Neil, they went down and as they went down and Michael was floating across the backside of the moon before he got away from into the dark side of the moon because no radio transmission, no nothing because Radio waves, I mean, it's all done by radio, right? What's blocking your radio waves? The moon. So, everything would kind of shut down. All the power would kind of go down. And there'd only be a couple little lights on. One that said oxygen and it's dark as crap, he said. And it hit him, right? As he started to cross over and everything went black, he thought to himself, and this is the craziest thing, there's never been a human being as far away from another human being in the history of creation. Think about that for a minute. He was so far away. Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: from another person that no one's ever been that far. got everybody here on the earth. You have at least two people together on the moon. They're together. But this man was the most isolated, alone person since either A, Adam Met Eve, or An Amoeba Crawled Down Under the Water, whatever you believe in. The reality of that. And he talked about how alone it felt and how scary it was. ⁓ Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: 40 minutes later, he'd pop out the other side and yeah, And then he had that feeling a couple of times. But no one's ever been that far away. With Artemis, these people in there, these are the furthest humans have ever been from humanity now. But they're all together. So that's great. But like, no one's ever been that far away because it's going further away. So to me, I'm thinking that's the crazy stuff that blows my mind. Like, no one remembers Michael Collins. Everyone remembers Neil and Buzz because They got all the glory. But I have such respect for that guy. Like, very unique feeling that no one else... I mean, you could be stuck in the middle of ocean on a raft like Tom Hanks style and you still be closer to somebody than he was. You know what saying? Like, that's crazy to me. How do you wrap your head around that? Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Man, you know, like I think just, know, my, my first initial thoughts ⁓ that is just, it's that, that feel, yeah, that alone feeling, ⁓ it, that'd be a very interesting thing to, to sit with, you know, you said for what 40 minutes. Yeah. Like, I mean, especially like, what if something went wrong? You know, what if. ⁓ Blu Robinson: Weird, huh? About 40 minutes of time, yeah. Give or take, yeah. Yeah, he said that. thought he said that. What if I fall down into it? What if something shoots off this moon? Because he's like, there's everything's dark. You can't see anything. But no one's ever seen at that point. Didn't have any graph to tell you. They had no idea. Was it a hollow? Was it a disk? Like he didn't know his mind would play tricks on him. Josh: But like, why? And I guess this all like, just, it just boggles my mind as well. why haven't we, have we explored? Why haven't we explored the backside of the moon? Right? Blu Robinson: What we have with satellites, but we have never had obviously boots on the ground. I don't know. It's harder than crap probably to get the back there because of technology and stuff like. It's probably a little chilly, I'd imagine, Josh: Right, well, it's probably freezing. But then also why the lack of communication now? feel like if they were, I don't know, I mean, I guess it would probably add a couple billion dollars, but why not strategically have satellites nearby so that you could relay the communication when you're on the backside of Blu Robinson: I'm sure they could eventually, but yeah, mean, it's got have cost money, right? Josh: I don't know. know. I just want to know what's back there. Blu Robinson: Well, think about this, right? Have you ever seen the show Alone on the History Channel? And they drop people out in the middle of the wilderness and they survive for as long as you can. And there's like 12 whatever people out there and they're all over the place. And so no one sees anybody. And the goal is there's who survives the longest. And some of them have been there for like 300, 200 days and stuff. But eventually the isolation and the alone really gets to people. And it gets you thinking like, why is loneliness, why is that so hard? Josh: You're so mean. Blu Robinson: Right? Like, why is it just being alone? Some people yearn for it. But even when we're alone, we're not alone. Like, there's humanity around, right? I people get these nomads, you know, hairs, and they, go to places like Alaska and stuff. But, you know, safety is the first one, right? Being with others improves survival. And so there's safety there. So they tell you to always go somewhere in public when you're feeling, like, unsafe. Josh: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: there's that sense of belonging, there's emotional regulation, there's this form of identity, like we're part of this, social creatures, the stimulus, all this kind of stuff. But like, it's pretty crazy when you think about why we struggle being alone. And like, when he felt that, he's like, ⁓ it to him. he said changed his life. He'd never, he said he would always appreciate knowing that he had relationships, that there were people that, because he's like, it was... Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: It was, he didn't even say scared or anything. He just said it was like this emotional feeling that he's never quite felt before or since. Like, ooh, isolation. Like, wow. Deep. Josh: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm trying to, I'm even trying to think of like times when I've been alone or having kind of that isolation. can't think of too many times and I don't know how I would deal with it. mean, I'm it's funny because there are times I'm a very social runner ⁓ ⁓ everybody knows. ⁓ at the same time, there are times where I I a solo run. I love being ⁓ with thoughts. I love being with with just figuring things out. Blu Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes? Josh: But then at the same time, I still have people around me. I still have, you know, my music or my podcast, whatever it is. So am I truly alone? Am I really truly experiencing that more? You know, I'm just not really socializing, but yeah. Blu Robinson: Yeah, because he didn't have anything. He had no communication. Everything powers down. And so there's this backup battery stuff. so literally, it's just like a couple of small little lights that indicate buttons. of them was an oxygen thing to make sure the oxygen was always on, obviously. But like he said, it didn't cast enough to even make anything out in the capsule. Crazy you think about it, man. So ⁓ I know. know the sad thing is that I've talked to people that have been in deep, ⁓ Josh: Yeah. Blu Robinson: that have felt that way despite the fact that there are people sitting right next to them like in their own emotional state like that to me has to be has to be hell you know like to feel that alone and that's dang dude ouch Josh: Yeah. I mean, I think really honestly, the closest that I probably felt like as far as despair and not wanting to be alone, mile, mile 45 of the 50 miler. Yeah. Blu Robinson: Mm-hmm. Pony Express? Dude, I felt that same way, dude. Like, I'm so glad you said that, because I felt that way too. I started having this weird kind of like, what am I doing here? Like, if I die and fall in this ditch, is anybody going to find me? Like, I started having this guilt, like I should be home. Like, you remember that, dude? I think you and I have talked about this on the Added to Adley podcast years ago. Josh: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I was... Yeah, yeah. Well, and I remember, I just, remember bawling. Like, I... Blu Robinson: I did too. when you finally, when we finally kind of caught up again, we finished together, I remember just bawling. were both crying finishing. Like that was freaking, Josh, that was intense. I remember that. That was, and why was it that far into the race you think? Like, cause it literally was towards the end when it started getting dark and I'm like, I don't like this. Josh: Yeah. Yeah. I think it was the darkness. I think it was that change of just our settings and everything. Because I remember at mile 45, it was dark. There were really no lights other than the lamps that I could kind of see and some brake lights from some of the support vehicles. But Blu Robinson: I'm still here. Yeah. Yeah. Josh: My support vehicle had had already about a mile or two up as I would because on the course you have your own support ⁓ vehicle everything. And so you can I I just tell them, you know, go two miles up and that's good. And so I was I didn't have my support vehicle. I couldn't see my support vehicle. It was pitch dark. Blu Robinson: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Josh: And I think that's what really did because I really felt alone. It was quiet. I didn't have my music. just, yeah, I just sobbed and remember that. that's when I just I remember just praying. And I think I've prayed that. That I don't know what right word would be, not earnestly, but. Blu Robinson: Yeah. Yep. Josh: candidly probably yeah candidly ⁓ Where it was just me talking to God and like, you know, like God like I Don't want to do this alone. I can't do this alone like like I need somebody to run with Like I was mad like I like I was mad that like I didn't have anybody like I went through this whole range of emotions and everything and then it was like Yeah Blu Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, crazy, We both had our suck rock that wasn't working anymore. Me too. Josh: which I still have, but it was like five, maybe 10 minutes later when Jed drove up and he's like, hey, you need somebody to run with you? And I'm like, start crying again. Blu Robinson: Dude, that's what's funny about it, because that's the same thing happened to me. Like I wanted to give up. was going to give up and I made my whole plan. I knew that like I couldn't tell my support vehicle I'd quit, but I knew that we had an athlete named Tim. I knew I could tell him because he's my athlete. I tell him what to I'm his coach. And so I knew when Tim came up, I could get in and be like, I'm done. And then I go support you and watch you finish and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm waiting for Tim to come up in the support. I'm waiting. Josh: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: waiting. I'm waiting. And I also hear someone coming up behind me, think a runner coming up past me. And it's freaking Tim. He's not in his car. He's running. I'm like, crap. Josh: Yeah, because my friend Jill had his car because he was the support vehicle for me. Yeah. And I was mad. I, to be honest with you, I was mad at Tim because Jill was my support runner, but she had to, she had to drive the car because he's like, I'm going to go, I'm going to go help run in coach Mike. Okay. And I just remember being so mad at Tim. Blu Robinson: Yep. Yep. Yep. That's right. Really? Yep. coach. Yeah. And we walked and walked. ⁓ so funny. Yep. I was mad at Tim too, but it was perfect because I didn't want to quit. I just didn't want to be alone anymore. then you caught up with us and you and I finished together and we cried and we've never done it again. ⁓ you know, yeah. But it was it was was the isolation, that feeling of being alone. That's it's not it's not good. And so Josh: And because it worked out. Yeah, I know. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: when I see when I heard that again from the Artemis because they're actually further away from the trajectory that the Apollo went through. I'm like that is freaking mind bending like that's so freaking wild like you know and it does it kind of puts things in perspective. So you know we're not alone in the way we think we're not alone in what we're nervous of we're not alone in what our biases or our connections are. I ⁓ that kind of what makes this kind of great like. Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: I can get up here on a little platform and crap for a minute, but I still care about that other side. still believe in I want I want Trump to succeed. Like you said, if he doesn't, then we all kind of take a hit. But also want to ⁓ care the people that are hurt by it. And it helps me be a better person to the fact of within a poll, pick up the slack where I see it. You know, like I've seen a lot of people pro bono this year because they haven't had insurance, but they need help. Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: that sucked because I've had to extend my hours so I can at least keep food on the table and lights on my house for my kids. But like, I'm willing to do that stuff. So it's made me a little bit more, guess, curious to ⁓ I can do, what I have to set limits at. So I'm not going to look at it as all a bad thing. I think we can find a lesson in everything if we look deep enough. Don't you think? Josh: Yeah, no, absolutely. You know, I think, don't know, just over the past year or two years, whatever, ⁓ I think for me, especially it's just been being more cognizant of the people around you ⁓ ⁓ more sympathetic as well I can't Blu Robinson: you Yeah. Yeah. Josh: necessarily offer empathy. What was that? Blu Robinson: Yeah. That was alert I didn't know I had on. That was my wife arriving at home ⁓ the garage door opening. And in a minute, you'll hear the garage door closing. I don't know why that's on, but I get it for Amazon. This is the thing. I'm glad you, I'm glad you bring up. Any second now, you're going to hear that again. And it'll say that she closed the garage. So I know that our dog won't run away. But ⁓ now, we changed our our ⁓ ⁓ door opener. And apparently by doing that, Josh: if Ha Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: we told Amazon they had free reign. so Amazon now throws our packages in there, which is cool, but also a little weird. There's been a couple of times when I've been there, you know, fixing a bike tire or something, all of a the door opens and there's the Amazon guy standing there. And we have this awkward exchange of like looking into other's eyes and then the handoff of the package with no verbal communication. It's a little weird. And I'm thinking, do I trust Jeff Bezos and his employees that much to have access? I guess I do because I've never turned it off, but like Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: Give me things I have hooked to my internet. had no idea it required internet. Apparently this garage door does. so many things that are attached to it. Josh: I, I don't have a fancy garage door opener like that, but ⁓ ⁓ like I need to pat myself on the back because I programmed new garage openers to our garage door. No, it's not. No, it not. Like I feel, I, I, like, I feel like I earned my man car. Blu Robinson: Which is not easy. Congratulations, sir. Absolutely. Josh: because it took me literally like three to four months ⁓ the ⁓ garage door opener with my wife, custody a child. know, like, ⁓ do I get the child on the weekend? Yeah. I'm like, okay, honey, I'm leaving for work. You're going to have to close the garage door. ⁓ Blu Robinson: Dude, I love it. Do I have to open it back out and then close it? here it comes. Any second now. ⁓ it didn't do the noise. It didn't do the noise. ⁓ ⁓ Josh: ⁓ let's listen. Maybe she turned it off. But no, like I, just, I got fed up with trying to figure it out. And I'm like, you know what? I'm a man now. I can figure this out. And I did. So. Blu Robinson: Do you know what Marissa did for me? She actually programmed it into the suburban and her cart where there's a designated button on the rear view mirror you can push and it'll do it from the car itself. To me, I'm thinking that's like open heart surgery. I'm like, how do you do this witchcraft wizardry? Like we don't need the clicker anymore, Josh. The future is now. Yeah. Josh: Yeah, I mean, I still need it for the rogue, but I'm wondering if I could do that for the Mazda because it was a 2023. Blu Robinson: You know what's hard is when you have to reprogram your TV remote. Like I've had to buy a new one because ours got smashed in the recliner and I got a universal remote and I thought this will be great. Dude, it's like you got to push on off pound zero zero five zero three three three five. There's like 15 numbers in this and then you got to push pound pound pound. And trying to get it is insane. Like. Man, have you done this? Have you ever tried that? Josh: ⁓ Duncan. Mmm. My I've I've tried it I've failed. So that's when I get my brother in law, the better Josh to do it. And be honest with you, we don't have. Yeah, he does. Like we and it funny we were at my brother. So my brother has has a second home that he does for Airbnb down in St. George. Right. And ⁓ Blu Robinson: Yeah. He has that touch. Josh: We had gone down there to kind of help set things up, you know, decorate, up the TV, right? It's, it's the last, it was the last thing ⁓ we had to do. And we had to set up ⁓ of the, all the TVs up to Netflix and to, you know, all to Disney plus and everything. And took ever like for ever. Blu Robinson: You're like, I'll do that. Mm-hmm longer than it should ⁓ Josh: And so my, ⁓ my sister-in-law's parents were there as well. I gave it to my brother-in-law cause I'm just like, I can't figure this out. And it took him just as long. It took him just as long to figure it out. But ⁓ yes, he did. But it was so funny because like, we're getting ready to leave and cleaning ⁓ last minute stuff. And sister-in-law's dad. Blu Robinson: I've had it with this. But he had the patience to follow it through. Is that what it was? Yeah. Josh: like really mad at better Josh because he thought he was just sitting there watching TV. ⁓ No, trying to figure out these remotes, right? ⁓ Blu Robinson: Ha! Yeah, I'm working. Yeah, it's hard. They say that there's a remote. You can do everything. You can use it on the TV, on the surround sound. It doesn't work. Josh: I know, and that's why, no, I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. And you know what? Honestly, that's probably the number one reason why people are cutting cable. It's because they don't know how to do the remote. I mean, I know that's what we're going to be doing. Blu Robinson: 100 % Exactly. Well, this is the thing though Well, yeah, but here's the thing I mean so all these smart TVs that we have nowadays like I kind of don't like them because for some reason the TV I got I bought it on Facebook marketplace So it's probably stolen because I remember the house we bought I'm thinking there's no way you bought this TV. Anyway ⁓ The I don't know if it's the process there'll be computer in it somewhere, but the processor must be wicked So there must not be enough RAM or something Josh: Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: because I'll push volume up and it'll take about to five before it'll go up. So then you're playing the game of going up and up and up and then ⁓ like crap and you do five more ups and it's ⁓ high then you do down, down, down and it's not responsive. You do down, down, down and you're back where you started. You switch to Netflix. It a minute to change. Then you push like, well, okay, well prime. So then it goes to Netflix and then prime. I'm like, holy crap. Why? What's going on? So then Marissa's like, well, let's just use the Roku. We have one Roku device for some reason. It's a random thing. I mean, where did we get this? It has its own remote. We have an Apple TV we got probably in 2011. And then we have Fire Stick. So I'm like, going on? ⁓ what this? Josh: I'm not going to lie. During, think it was, I can't remember if it was free if we got it on a, like a Black Friday deal or something, ⁓ ⁓ Ann got Roku. And I have no idea what Roku is. Like we haven't done anything with it. We just, we have Roku, but we've never done anything with it. Like what is Roku? Blu Robinson: What's going on Josh? ⁓ huh. Roku, I think it's like a smart TV plug-in. You plug it in and it has everything that your smart TV should have. really, if you have a smart TV, you don't need any of that crap. But Roku has like, I think it's because when it came out, like this is cool. It's the same like an Apple TV. I'm not real sure where these things fit in. For a minute there, we even had a Google thing. It was a Google circle thing you plugged in. But the Roku, I think if you plug it in and you turn it on to whatever like HDMI 1, 2 or 3 you have in there. Josh: Then why do we have it? going to have to write this down from things I need to talk to Mary Ann about. Blu Robinson: ⁓ I do know it has a really cool scrolling kind of like saver, do call it? Screen saver. And there's like little Hollywood like, know, I ⁓ know, Easter eggs all over it. But you can go to Netflix and to ⁓ and to Disney Plus from the Roku. But you can do that from your Smart TV. But we have that and we have Apple TV, which is the same thing. And we have... Josh: Mm. Blu Robinson: Like I said, a fire stick, is the same thing as a Roku, but through Amazon. So you could say, hey, Alexa, I want to watch this. It's stupid, Josh. It all doesn't make any sense. But it all takes my internet, too, which makes everything else run slow. Josh: See, I... Yeah, I'm definitely right. I've made myself a note of talking to Mary Ann. Blu Robinson: Roku WTF. Yeah, what does it do? I mean, have you plugged it into your TV? Josh: No, have it. bought it. Whatever. ⁓ can't, I can't remember if it was for free. Blu Robinson: I don't think it's going to change your life if you haven't used it yet. Like if it was the first thing when you had like the old fashioned TV, you plugged it in, you'd like, this is amazing. I can't believe this is all at our fingertips. But the Apple TV, the remote is so dang teeny. I haven't seen that since 2020. So. Josh: Mm-hmm. That's the thing I hate is like we, even with our smart TV, we still have like three remotes that I need to track down in order for me just to turn on the, you know, like the TV, the news, whatever it is. But then again, that's why I really don't watch TV as well. It's just the whole process and Blu Robinson: Mm-hmm. Well, how about when you're trying to, so here's the deal. We don't have cable. We don't have regular TV, whatever, you know. So then it's like, oh, the Super Bowl's on. Oh, yeah, you have to go like subscribe to Peacock. But it's like, oh, conference. Well, where are we going to watch that? it's like, oh, they went to stream it through YouTube. Yeah. I'm like, what are we doing? Like, they got rid of, okay, they got, I think they did streaming to get rid of cable. Josh: YouTube. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: But now you have to literally get on your phone and say what platform. I wanted to watch my I wanted my kids to watch this show the other night. We had them watch this show called Abigail. Have you ever seen this? ⁓ Of course you haven't because it's a horror movie and it's a good horror movie. I'm telling you about it real quick. But in order to do this, I had to like get on a fight and say which streaming platform has Abigail. And it told me that it was one I never heard of. I can't remember. I got on there and it wasn't on there. I had to like rent it. Josh: Yeah. Blu Robinson: But Abigail is a really good show. It starts off as like a like a drama crime show, right? And these guys going in undercover and they've all got almost like members show hackers with those guys. had a role. They had to get in and like do a heist. Right. They're going to kidnap this little girl and hold her for ransom money. And so all these guys from all over, they go in and they kidnap this girl whose dad's worth billions of dollars. They're going to hold it for ransom. And Josh: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: It turns out that like, you know, they all start dying because they think that the dad find out found out that she was missing and who has her. But really, Abigail's a vampire. So she's killing everybody. It's the coolest. It's a funny show. It turns in from this like high show to this horror movie. It's pretty good. ⁓ Josh: Wait, is it a movie or is it a TV show? Blu Robinson: It's a movie. It's a movie. It's a couple hours. Really good. Really well written. I liked it. So you're totally blown away when you're like, wait a minute, she's killing all these people. It's because she's a vampire. It's great. But we had to go through like five different places to find it. And then the places I did find it that had it, you had to rent it. So I'm like, what are we doing here? Like, I don't know, man. Too much. We've talked about this a million times. Too much. Josh: Yeah. Yeah, it is too much. and I mean, we're, we've we made the decision like a year and a half ago to cut cable, but we just haven't done it because it's to justify it because it, ⁓ we have whole bundle with Verizon and everything. And then I, we've tried to break up. Yeah. Well, and then we've tried to break up with them a couple of times where we, you know, we've gone in and told them, and they talk us in. Blu Robinson: Yeah. ⁓ they get you with the bundle, don't they? Mm-hmm. Josh: into staying and like honey, we need better resolve. We just need to put our foot down. Blu Robinson: What are your thoughts on subscriptions? And I'm not talking like HBO and Disney Plus. I'm talking about things now that like were never subscriptions before. there's this new Apple thing, right? And I keep getting pushed on this. It's like the Apple Creative Studio and ⁓ Cut. You get like all these other kind of things. You used to be able to buy them straight out and you just have them. Like I have Final Cut I bought for like 200 bucks like five years ago and I still have. Great. But now... ⁓ Josh: ⁓ yeah, same. Yeah. Blu Robinson: they want you to do a subscription. you do $120 a year subscription, you can have all these five things, but you don't own it anymore. And ⁓ thinking these things in cars too. Like in the mothership, if I wanted to subscribe to some kind of like OnStar thing, I could also get like, like heads up display and like stuff that the car should already have, but because it's a subscription, I'm thinking, dude, ⁓ Why are we doing this with people's finances? Everything's a subscription now. It's never just you have it. It's like... Josh: It's the, yeah, it's the sale up, right? yeah, especially it's kind of the apps. Like I swear app now has in-app purchases. Like it's never just free. there's always something that you have to buy. And I'm like, this is dumb. Blu Robinson: Man, I hate it, Josh. I hate it more than anything, man. The subscription, everything's subscription. Yeah. fell for it the other day. bought it. There was a game I was playing and it's the stupidest game. And it's like you build these airplanes and then you pull this rubber band thing back and you got to fly them. It's pretty cool. And if you get enough tokens or stars or whatever, you can buy another piece of the airplane, make it go further. Right. And I kept getting ads after every poll. I'm like, screw this. It was a dollar to buy the game. So I'm like, oh, I'll buy the game. So I'm playing the game and then all of sudden it's like you're out of you're out of tries. Try back in 20 minutes. I'm like, what? Josh: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: And I looked up and sure enough, like they count how many times you can play this game. But if you buy more stars, you can have like 20 more pulls. The stars are like 15 bucks for like 100 of them. you can do what is this? I just gave you a dollar. What like what? Josh, I hate it, man. Like it makes me so mad. don't play that game anymore. F that. What is what is this? What's going on? Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Blu Robinson: What's the dumbest thing you fell for? What's the dumbest app you've fallen for and you bought and you're like, ⁓ oops. Josh: Well, pretty much everything. I really wanted an app that I could improve my photography, the editing stuff. And there some really good ones out there. But I swear, every one I use, it's another five bucks or whatever. Blu Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah, five bucks. Have you seen the ones that are like seven bucks a week, ten bucks a month or 50 bucks a year? Like, dude, what? You guys, seven dollars a week? Are you of your minds? Josh: Yeah, no, well, dumbest one that I've spent money on would probably be a mutual or Tinder. Didn't need those. No, no. ⁓ Blu Robinson: And you didn't even get married using it, Yep, see? Good old fashioned people ⁓ you. Josh: I think that was like seven bucks a month as well. Like if you wanted the non-free, you know, version of it, but you could do quite a few things with the free version, which was kind of nice, but ⁓ Blu Robinson: Yeah? Yeah. I bought Marissa a guitar for her birthday. Like she wanted to learn how to use a guitar. And she'd mentioned it's the first time in a long time I've actually like gave her a gift that she kind of wanted. know, meaning like I give her a gift. She's like, oh, yeah, that's nice. Because I thought she wanted it. But like, dude, I nailed it this time. And then the app that she that she was as great is like 60 bucks for three months or something. And I'm like, I gave her a gift card like here. Buy this app now. Get it for six months. And she won't use it on that. I'm like, dang you, because she is hell bent on not paying for apps. Like she will sit through hours of ads for the free. I don't have that patience, man. Like the ADHD impulsivity of me is like I'm buying stuff and I hate it. get in trouble and I forget to get off after the free preview. So. Josh: ⁓ gosh. I don't either. I don't either. I have that same problem because half time Mary Ann's like, what's this charge on the credit card? ⁓ Blu Robinson: That's Marissa. Like if there was a doll of Marissa and you pulled a string, you'd say, what's this charge? What's this charge? that what you're assuming? ⁓ I hope she doesn't listen to this. ⁓ did you buy? What's this charge? Yeah. That's me. ⁓ Josh: Yeah, and I'm like, yeah, I was an app Yeah, that was an app. I needed to cancel the I needed it I need to cancel the prescription or or the worst is when I don't like when I or I if I buy something or a subscription and And I don't read what exactly it is like that happened to me about a year and a half ago Where yeah Blu Robinson: I've done that too, yeah. Josh: And I thought that I was buying it. was trying to find a cheap version chat GPT, right? Because I'm like, I don't want to pay 20 bucks. And so I Googled it. Blu Robinson: I'm gonna ask if you pay for AI because yeah, there's a lot to pay. I do. Yeah. Josh: Yeah. And I one that was like $7.99 a month. I'm like, you like, ⁓ and I, and I saw it just quickly that it was like, like it with writing. And that's kind of what I wanted. Like I wanted something to help me kind of refine, like help me, write, ⁓ write book. Right. So I buy it. Not really. ⁓ Blu Robinson: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Josh: Digging much into it. And what did I buy? I bought a subscription to, it was like a, like a romance, like AI romance, writing subscription or something like that. Like, like a spicy one, like, you know, what do you want this to be about? And you're like, all right, like Johnny and Martha, you know. Blu Robinson: ⁓ yeah, yeah. Run a marathon and it's like what are they wearing? Yeah, oh no I'd read that book you gonna finish it? Oh man Josh: Yes. And then it's, yeah, exactly. Right. And I'm just like, Oh gosh. So I, so luckily it wasn't a like, like buy like, you know, like the a hundred dollars for the whole year kind of subscription. was a, it was just a one month thing. So I canceled it right away, but I had this whole month of it. And I remember it was when I Blu Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. Josh: was doing the other show. so for one of our bonus episodes that month, ⁓ as PG as I could keep it, a story about Spencer Kenny and I. ⁓ yeah. Like, no, no, we don't need to, we don't need to dive any deeper than that. So, but yeah, like that, that one, I was just like, ⁓ how am I going to like, ⁓ like soon Blu Robinson: It really wanted you to go deeper than that, And you're like, no. Yeah, listeners. Yeah. Oh man. The amount of money we've wasted on crap like that if you think about it, like, you know, I'm glad that we're not homeless, but like, geez, man, like... Josh: I know, well, I mean, feel like we're wearing it too, you know? Blu Robinson: You know, I don't like the false advertising of like a cool game you see and then you go to the game and it's totally not even close to that. Like, I've been bamboozled by that one more than once too. Josh: Mhm. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. Like the ads that you'll see either on Instagram or Facebook, like the reels where it's like they're yeah, like you're trying to dig through or like trying to avoid, you know, lava in your little, you know, maze or cave or whatever. Yeah. Blu Robinson: Yeah, that looks fun. The king, whatever that king is, yeah, the stupid king. My thing is I've actually like tried to play that game, like because there's some of them that you can like play as it's going through. And I have no idea how to do it. Like you got to move this gem to this side. And I'm like, don't like what? Like it doesn't even make sense. And so I'm like, that game's got to way over my head. But that king and the snake game in the lava, like that's that's a little too much. There's the one with the little dudes in the middle. Josh: Mm-hmm. I only... Blu Robinson: and you gotta scroll back and forth and you get a bunch of army guys and you're shooting and then you gotta scroll over. That game is not anything like that. I've downloaded it, but that looks fun. can times them by 10 and you can have like 20 guys shooting and you times them by one or by 10 and anything. Have you ever done that? Like seen that one before? Not even close to the real game. Josh: Yeah. Well, I think, no, really? No. See, I only have like three games on my phone. I have B Jeweled. I have My Vegas. So B Jeweled, it's, well, the, yeah, the My Vegas is a slot machine one because you can actually earn points that you can redeem for things to do in Vegas. Blu Robinson: Not even close. What are they? What's that? Slot machine? Are you serious? Wow. Josh: And so, yeah, like I've actually been playing it since, gosh, 2010, 2011. Blu Robinson: Is one of them like take a photo with Elmo? Like take a pic with the snow girls? like what? No? Score some weed from the guy on the corner of such and such. Like that kind of stuff to redeem? What is it? Josh: Elmo, welcome to Vegas. ⁓ no, but yeah, they're like ⁓ ⁓ well, no, like you can redeem it for, for like nights at, at like the Luxor and some of the casinos. Granted, not the weekends, obviously, but also a bunch of discounted stuff. ⁓ you could, know, 15 years ago, you could get some like legit, ⁓ free stuff. But now of course, you know, with this economy. Blu Robinson: ⁓ gotcha. Wow. So, so bejeweled then. ⁓ Josh: be Jeweled, My Vegas, and then whatever that dinosaur game is on the browser of Google when the internet goes out. Blu Robinson: ⁓ wow. Like that's that's how it's cool. All right. You ready for mine? ⁓ I've got got probably more than I should. I have Angry Birds. OK, I got Bomber Ace. I don't even know what that is. I've got color block. If you haven't played color block, you're missing out. That's that's a fun one. Josh: Mm-hmm. Okay. That seems like something that you wouldn't be very good at being colorblind. Blu Robinson: It's like, I don't know the colors, but it's more like, think about Tetris in a square. Like, you got to just plug these things into a shape, right? Epic Plane, which is the one I fell for, right? I have Hexaway, which is just a bunch of arrows and you got to kind of make them. I have Hollow Ball. Hollow Ball is pretty fun. I've got Missile which is a helicopter game. Mob Control. Moonlight, which is Mahjong. Josh: Okay Mm-hmm. Blu Robinson: I got Red Dead Redemption 1, it's a big game, Slither.io, and War Drones. yeah, man, I got quite a few. What ones do I play? None. Probably color blocks. Josh: See, that's why I got rid of a lot of them is, well, one, I wanted the space. And I'm like, I only really play two games. I don't even. ⁓ Blu Robinson: I have a ton of apps. have stupid apps. have dumb apps that I don't even need. Is that what yours is too? Josh: Yeah. I have a lot of, yeah, I, well, you have an iPhone, right? Yeah. And so the way I've set mine up to, this is riveting podcasting here, by the way, know, like I've, ⁓ do have everything categorized, you know, like I have my calendar page and then, ⁓ So like I have Blu Robinson: Yeah. Mine's a mess. Yours is looking slick. Wow. Josh: The stuff that I usually like, this is kind of my home base one, but like I have telegram. have my email in, one of the tabs. And then I have social media all in one. And. Blu Robinson: I'm impressed. Wow. You could do a class on that Josh, mine looks like a freaking car crash compared to yours. Josh: And then I have like church and then I have health and then I have photo and video, which that one is just, it's way too much, but. Blu Robinson: Man, you have definitely had some ADHD time there, because that's... Josh: And then, ⁓ yeah, no, totally. Because then I have like a whole, I have my Spotify and a Maps and then I have a hodgepodge of other stuff. Blu Robinson: It doesn't matter to me on that. My thing is, this is what we should have said. What are your four on the bottom? Those... Have you noticed? Mm-hmm. Josh: ⁓ yeah. I judge, like it drives me crazy whenever I have to use Mary Ann's phone. Blu Robinson: I just saw one on yours that I'm a little disappointed in, but let me see. I guess I can't be disappointed in it, got the phone calling app, the text messaging app, Spotify, and is that the camera? ⁓ Josh. So I've ⁓ the basics. I've got the phone call. I got Safari, email, and iTunes. Because I the camera on the smart button on the side. You push it and it just pops open. What's your action button linked to? Josh: All done. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's camera. Why? What? Blu Robinson: So you have an action button on the top. see, you push the action. Yeah, watch. You hold the action button down. There's my camera. Josh: Is it right? Blu Robinson: You have an iPhone 17. Is that an iPhone 17? Josh: And I just took a picture of that. Yes, it is. See, I'm living. Blu Robinson: Yeah, there you go. There's today's thumbnail. See, you're unrestrained, dude. That's power. There's more computer in that than there is in the... You know that there's more computer in that than there was in the Apollo. know that, right? The capsule that got them to the moon. There's more technology in your iPhone. ⁓ tenfold. Mm-hmm. Josh: I am living underneath my privilege. Really? ⁓ well. Blu Robinson: There's full circle. should jump out of here while we're still ahead. Because we're at one hour right now.