speaker-0: you speaker-1: I love the San Francisco 49ers. You're- I fucking hate you. speaker-0: Okay, good for you. For you. That block that ship. No, that goes against the the speaker-1: He never said I can't By the way, I lost a bet to Brad from Bev's video on the whole ordeal of Detroit Lions losing to the 49ers. speaker-0: The Detroit Lions being the Detroit Lions. speaker-1: Yeah. The second half playing like a different team. But if my team won, he would have to say, I love the Detroit lions on his ⁓ podcast. Well, the 49ers won. So I got to say it. So here you go. So I said it the first time and I have to spread it out throughout the podcast. So that's what he said. Yeah. That's what the bet was. Yeah. I I would just say five times in a row, but I'm just going to just, I just got it. You guys got to remember to speaker-0: have to spread out. We don't gotta do shit, you gotta do it. We didn't make fucking bat. speaker-1: Shit anyways guys welcome to BAF. We are doing the back to the 90s nostalgic back to the speaker-0: Yeah. Barely, barely the 90s. speaker-1: Yeah, it's like late 90s and everything else, but this is the comeback to the sex comedies like you know the sex comedies of the 80s which actually we're gonna be doing some 80s sex comedies in a couple weeks here with us to hosting go ahead and say what you're hosting Yes Porky's one and Porky's the next day. Yes, which actually I'm curious how they're gonna inter on with this episode and how which is better. So I'm curious speaker-0: Porky's one and two. speaker-1: But of course we're doing American pie and we'll be talking about the other three movies We are not talking about the fucking direct-to-video sequels, but mainly the first movie and stuff like that But before we do that, we're gonna go ahead and start with a drink. So of course this movie being American pie I decided to go ahead and get old smokey, Tennessee moonshine Apple pie moonshine. So ice cold in the fridge and Alright, what was the other? What's the other brand the other moonshine brand? There's a it's like moon something. It's got the one with the cinnamon stick in it. Do you know which one it is? We've done it before. I don't remember what it was, but there's different versions of this. So this one I've never had. I've never had old smokey. So this is it's okay. Well, I mean, you've had it. So I guess we can try and have you had this one before? Okay, so I haven't had this one. It's all right. All right. Let's go ahead and review it. All right. Cheers, guys. speaker-0: the name of it. Sorry. There we go, last one. speaker-1: Mm-hmm. Actually, I find that very tasty. speaker-0: I don't know if it tastes artificial to It tastes like. No. tastes artificial as fuck to As soon as it. speaker-1: It tastes like apple pie. You said you're not a big fan of apple pie anyways. speaker-0: I'm fine with the taste. don't like the textures and apply. I'm texture to me is a big thing in my food. Same thing with cake. speaker-1: don't like cake either. I like more of a cookie cake than because it's more of like a brownie, but speaker-0: But because that's texture to you. All right. So same thing with pies. I it's the textures of pie. The crust and the filling. The fillings are fine. The crust, I'm not a big fan of. speaker-1: Well see the thing is it tastes just like the filling of an apple pie that's what it tastes like I don't even taste the fucking apple speaker-0: It's artificial an artificial take on really you yeah, you don't taste it speaker-1: think so. It tastes artificial, but it doesn't taste bad. It tastes like apple pie. mean, it tastes like any of that's I mean, how artificial? mean, when you mean artificial, how do you mean that? Like fake, like completely fake. Like there's no apple flavor. speaker-0: There's a chemical taste to it. All right. you can... No, not. It's not the moonshine. speaker-1: That's more of the moonshine ⁓ this is not technically, is not moonshine. is yeah, it's not real moonshine. This is just, you know, what, what is the alcohol content on one of these? speaker-0: is LILLEGAL. I think it's 80 proof. speaker-1: Spirits is still from corn with natural flavors and caramel color added. So it is corn like for moonshine. Let's see here. I don't really Oh 35 % alcohol 70 proof 70 proof. Yeah. Yes. I don't even know how they, why did this consider this moonshine because moonshine moonshine is like about 190 proof. speaker-0: No, it's corn. Corn liquor. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, but I mean... speaker-0: It doesn't have to be a certain proof to be moonshine. The fact that it's a corn liquor and the way it's distilled is what makes it shine. It's not the percentage. speaker-1: I always thought it was the other way around. thought it was actually the alcohol content like in the moonshine because it's like, you know, they always say that moonshine's like get you drunk a lot faster. speaker-0: not in the stores is an extremely higher content. They're not regulated. Yeah. speaker-1: No, no, no, no like like is underground moonshine You know, the shit that you remember me and you used to get from a buddy of Mars from work or something like that. I think you got like, didn't you get like a pineapple flavors? speaker-0: There's a few different, there was different strengths also that we got there. All right. It's, it's non-regulated. So it has more variation in what you're getting ⁓ with home brew versus this. It's shine technically, but it's very weak. It's very regulated, ⁓ heavily controlled by the state. And this is what we get. speaker-1: Okay. So what do think this would be good for? Considering you say it's artificial and everything else. You think this would be good for a cocktail or by itself? speaker-0: Let's just say I mean, I don't know what cocktail I'd want to put. speaker-1: So, okay, so you've had the other brand version and you like that one better than this? You don't like either one of them? speaker-0: Yeah. No, mean the other one, the amount of them were what Apple pie moonshine. speaker-1: So what is a moonshine from one of these brands that you actually enjoy? The banana pudding? speaker-0: Yeah, but that even though that's barely fine. No, no, no. I mean, but it's it that tasted delicious. Yeah. All right. But I'm not drinking that to get drunk. speaker-1: That's why I think that I understand you're saying artificial, but I think that you don't like this also because you don't like. speaker-0: I like out the taste of apple pie filling. All right. This does not taste like real apple pie filling speaker-1: I guess we have different taste buds because to me it tastes like apple speaker-0: It tastes like a chemical version of it. speaker-1: When you go by chemical, can see the alcohol. speaker-0: Same way, grape flavoring on anything doesn't actually taste like grapes. It is a chemical taste. Yeah. All right. Which can still be fine. speaker-1: I see what you're saying. It'd be good. No, no, no. I know what you're talking about. to me, this still tastes like apple filling. So I don't see the artificial taste. No, that's fine. All right. Well, you go ahead and start. OK. speaker-0: That's fine. You're welcome. I'll give it a half thumb. It's it's very easy to drink. Yeah. You'll have to drink a lot of it to get fucked up. ⁓ yeah. But it's very easy to drink. You get the idea of Apple pie, but this is real apple pie shine. The real apple pie shine I've had. ⁓ yeah. Lots of time. speaker-1: Right. You have real. Yeah, I've never had. speaker-0: My shine is a common common flavor ⁓ combo. Okay. All right. And for speaker-1: the for the underground shit. Yeah, you see, I've never had that version before. I've just had white lighting. I've had a pineapple. speaker-0: I'm pretty sure we've had Apple pie shine on this show real deal shit. No, no, from crystal. ⁓ speaker-1: It happened. No, that was just regular moonshine. No, they bought the coconut one, the one that looked like fucking the one that you were drinking that shit. speaker-0: Multiple shines The bottle that looks like jizz. Yes, but it fucking tasted delicious. You gotta fuck off that shit. If my jizz tasted like that, I would be a very popular guy. speaker-1: No, but that is the only one that they brought in. brought that one in the other. No, no, that's the thing. I never asked. speaker-0: Weren't they broad enough? ⁓ yeah, I'm going dating and just a hat never did speaker-1: Yeah, I've never had it on undergrad. So what would you give this? speaker-0: Same half a thumb, ⁓ speaker-1: I I you know what I don't mind it. It's not getting two thumbs up and I'll give it a thumb I'll give it one thumb up. It's to me. It's not that bad ⁓ It's just a simple Because like I said, I'm not for the sweetness, but this is apple pie and I do love apple pie to me It tastes like you're drinking an apple pie That's why I have no problem with it now if I had to pick the the best one that I've ever had was that fucking banana pudding one because that one is That's a fucking two right there. That thing is like drinking It's because I love banana pudding and that that shit was perfect. But no, I'll give this about a thumb but like I said, the only reason why I picked it for this movie is because you know, it's apple pie flavored American pie apple pie because Jim fucks the pie. So so that is our drink. speaker-0: You guys see our photo for the moot for the show? You mean the pie that Ron fucked? Shut the speaker-1: ⁓ Fuck up. You were here when I put the fucking scoop in. speaker-0: didn't say anything. I just asked if everyone saw the picture. That was all. speaker-1: I was there. You just added to it. That's all you did. You just. speaker-0: You fucking the pie? No I didn't add you fucking the pie. I didn't fuck the pie. It looks like you fucked a pie. speaker-1: See, I knew this was gonna happen. American Pie. speaker-0: Brought it up the very first time we talked about this. Yeah, you're the one who said speaker-1: Because I know that you guys would joke around and say, ⁓ you probably fucked the pie. speaker-0: Who ordered that? You're the one who brought it up. That never even crossed my speaker-1: I was alright. Well, I was expecting well you guys to join that so then I assumed fuck you anyways Can pie released July 9th? 1999 directed by Paul Weitz and Chris Weitz Chris Weitz is uncredited actually other movies that they've delivered Directed or Paul Weitz is directed is down to earth, which I think is that Chris Rock movie I believe about a boy little fuckers. Is that like the speaker-0: And now, rock you fuck- America speaker-1: The parents that's like the third one circuit to freak the vampire assistant ⁓ in good company and fatherhood so not many Okay, well no movies this movie had a 12 million dollar budget It made a hundred and one million domestic and it made 234 million worldwide. So this was a surprise. Yeah, this was a fucking hit when it came out I remember when this came out and this was this was huge because you know, not many sex comedies came out mean if you could think of sex comedies or comedies that refer to sex in the nineties. Can you think of any? Because not many. mean, was Tom Katz in the nineties? All right. Something about Mary. Would you assume that's a sex comedy? Would you assume that's just a comedy? A crude comedy. Yeah. So when it comes to sex comedies, there really wasn't that many. So I can't really think of any, but the movie stars Jason Biggs, Chris Klein, Thomas Ian Nichols, Jennifer Coolidge, who plays the famous Stifler's mom, Shannon Elizabeth, Alyssa speaker-0: have to look at. Yes. speaker-1: Allison Hanigan, you are on that's not a comedy though skeet was speaker-0: Basic Instinct. Ski School. Ski Ski School. Amazing. Yep. 1991. Ski School. Oh, those are rock movies, that's why. Really? Yeah. See that's- speaker-1: Yeah. Yep. So that's like the debt. That's like right near the end of the eighties into the nineties. So that's not a speaker-0: Roll intention. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty woman. Yeah. ⁓ I mean, it's about a fucking whore. It's a whore. speaker-1: It's. ⁓ It's about a fucking romance speaker-0: but I'll meet you later. speaker-1: Yeah, that's about a chiller being lesbian. It's got actually what's her name? ⁓ Fuck what's her name? Yeah That's not a sex speaker-0: From American pie chasing Amy I mean, it does. I don't focus on relationships, but. speaker-1: Relationships, yeah, it's not the whole movie's not about sex. Let's see America Pie the whole movie is literally about sex speaker-0: or gas or gasmo. ⁓ gasmo is a good one. Revenge of the nerds three. Yes. speaker-1: Jesus, Provejler is just great, especially the original and the second one. Not many in the 90s though. It's a funny movie. Yeah, they came out the same year I think or no year before something like that. Yep, same year. Interesting. That was a funny one. I remember when that came out and then I remember they made Deuce Bigelow European Jiggle the sequel. speaker-0: Deuce bigelow, Mel gigolo. I really do see them though were very good. They were either very early nineties or very late nineties. Nothing in the middle. ⁓ speaker-1: about booty call I would put in a sex comedy? That's the one I actually don't mind. I thought Jamie Foxx was hilarious in. That one is funny. I fucking love that. No, that's not a sex comedy. speaker-0: feel like boomerangs golden balls. speaker-1: What the fuck? What is that, fucking porno? speaker-0: It sounds like it should be. of this list I'm looking at, think Ski School is probably the closest. When we think of sex comedies, that is the closest. And I would say, funnier. speaker-1: Well, when we get to your Porky's movies, I have a whole list of all the sex comedies of the 80s that we can bring up. Because I'm going to compile whole list because 1983, actually the year I was born, actually where a lot of them fucking came out. But we'll go back to the cast of this movie. have Natasha Lyon. I think that's who these I'm in a cheerleader movie. Tara Reed, Sean William Scott in his first ever role. Eddie K. Thomas, Chris Owen. speaker-0: Mina Mina speaker-1: Okay. Me too. Savari, ⁓ John Cho, which is another first. he became a really, he's been suing fucking star track. mean, he was in a Harlan Kumar go to a white castle, which is a great fucking a stoner comedy. Great Eugene. Great Eugene Levin as Jim's dad. Yes, and then we got two great cameos that we have a cameo of Blank 182 And we also have Casey Affleck for like a split like one minute. Yeah as the older brother of Kevin He also was in a cameo on the second one too where he told him about the yeah That's Casey Affleck. Yeah, Ben Affleck's brother. So other movies to come out around this time. We have a lot We have Iron Giant we have Lake Placid which we did a great episode on I think on our first season eyes wide shut speaker-0: Yeah speaker-1: Deep Blue Sea, another one that we did on our first season, which was Stu's hosting right there. The Haunting. You remember the movie? I think we talked about this before, Arlington Road. Yeah. With, ⁓ I think it's, what's his name? Fuck. From the Shawshank Redemption. Robbins and Jeff Bridges, I believe. Yeah. Good fucking movie about paranoia and stuff like that. Runaway Bride, Muppets in Space, Trick the Wood, speaker-0: Tim speaker-1: and the this movie was okay the Matthew Brodbrick version of Inspector Gadget. So that was pretty decent movies that came out two movies that we actually already done an episode on so but we're gonna go ahead and take our break right now and we will be right back. speaker-0: No, won't. speaker-1: Having a hard time trying to stay up trying to record these podcasts late at night? speaker-0: Or are you up late working, driving trucks, working in the shop, trying to provide for that damn family of yours? Coffee. Well, let us tell you about this one company we got right here. It's called Coffee Bros. 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This coffee keeps you awake, especially for the late podcasting that we do. speaker-0: Yeah, it's very much. speaker-1: Try out Coffee Bros. Coffee! speaker-0: Bros! speaker-1: Alright, I love the San Francisco 49ers. That's number two. So anyways, how they ⁓ speaker-0: Kick your ass. speaker-1: Yeah. No. Fuck you. Why are you gonna ask this fucking shit? I like that it read. speaker-0: Why don't we find out? Brock Purdy just came out and electrified that second half, made clutch plays when it fucking needed to happen. And didn't get hurt this time. you know, that was a surprise. That's a big plus. speaker-1: Robert least Colin Kaepernick's not in there. I don't care everybody misses him. Colin Kaepernick. I say it wrong? All right, how do you say it then? The guy that did all the that started all the kneeling. Who? I'm asking you. I don't remember. I'm not saying speaker-0: Who's that? Playing who was that? I know what you're trying to say speaker-1: I'm not, you're trying to me the again. I don't know how to say his name, I'm, ⁓ name? The quarterback that started the whole kneeling thing. I don't know, I don't remember how to say his name. speaker-0: No quarterback started the whole Neil and the only thing was a movement that happened. He saw the cross America. He did not start the movement. He did not personally start the fucking movement. ⁓ yes, he did not start the fucking movement. speaker-1: when he started For the football Who started the kneeling at games? speaker-0: That's kind of... speaker-1: Hold on. Who? It's very good. speaker-0: obscure question. We're talking about the horror games. I'm gonna go ahead and give that to Betty poop. ⁓ speaker-1: Who started kneeling at the NFL? Colin Kaepernick. speaker-0: Spin the Yep. There you go. You are three times. speaker-1: Colin Kaepernick. Come on you But I was right I was right we knew you were right speaker-0: No, yes You made me really think it worked teamwork speaker-1: Son of a bitch Alright, let's see. Let's get a self-destruct This thing really spinned come on keep going keep moving it up. ⁓ speaker-0: ⁓ Slam. Does that really help? speaker-1: Cock Block by BAC. speaker-0: Gotta get a representative here. ⁓ sh- Right back. speaker-1: Shall we Alright so we're back so good luck. B.C. has got the drink for me. What is the drink? ⁓ I had Chase's mic off. speaker-0: Fuck. ⁓ you didn't have the mic on. Say hello snow. Hello. So what we made. Ear not there. So what we made was Snow's Kool-Aid. What is it? Tequila? Vodka. Vodka. Kool-Aid vodka stuff with Baileys. Enjoy. Looks like. It looks gross. milk. It looks gross. I'm standing. I'm going over here by Stu because I don't want to be in the splash zone. speaker-1: You speaker-0: You did almost lose it. Still almost losing it. You did lose it. ⁓ there it goes. Good job, Sammy. Good job, Snow. Yes. ⁓ Sorry, babe. It's not a nut shot. speaker-1: Well, it's- Ugh. speaker-0: You know the rules. Okay. No. Really? Yeah. That's the fucking rules. The Bailey's turned sh** a curdle. Yes. You gotta do it again. feel really bad now. That's the fucking rule! Sorry, brother. speaker-1: Then let me let me hold on to it for a minute and let my stomach so speaker-0: Isn't that gonna just make it chunkier? We'll wait to make the next one and in that one. Okay, I'll go make it and I'll set it on your table And just let it sit there. It's gonna be you a vomit in your mustache right now Can you look at the camera? Oh, I want to pay down to say no. No, that's still there a little bit. Yeah It's a really bad don't speaker-1: Go ahead and do it. make it. speaker-0: Okay, over calling Kaepernick. And the 49ers. speaker-1: So fun thought the pie from Costco is the pie that they use for Jim. I don't know. thought I'd bring that up. Really? Costco pie. speaker-0: Yeah, it doesn't look like it all. Costco. Didn't look like it at all compared to what you had versus what he had. But he had Atlantis work on it. speaker-1: that's not a Costco pie no no I was just saying speaker-0: ⁓ OK. Right after you're saying right now, I didn't have it. I apologize. speaker-1: ⁓ no, they- speaker-0: Keep it down this time. Do you need another soda? speaker-1: Give me liquid death. Just give me a liquid death. The the curling turned into solid. Like I was like tasting solid and that was going down my throat. It was like what the fuck is this? Like it really fucking curled up. Why am I why is this? speaker-0: If you plug your nose when you do it- That's the worst thing you've ever had down your throat. Come on now. It's not going to get any easier sitting there. No, the longer it there, the worse it's going to get for you. speaker-1: Yeah, I'm gonna be like go open that water down like crazy speaker-0: Salud! speaker-1: Why is she- speaker-0: She's cackling. She's losing her crap. You're making her night. speaker-2: ⁓ speaker-0: Don't focus on the texture. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Oh, you feel it going down your throat? Oh my goodness. Oh, the snot in there is slimy. Oh my God. Right down your throat. Is it sticking there? it going take it off? You got this. I'd be at least somewhat loving and supportive. Snow, you suck! You're all such shits. All right. speaker-1: Jerks. speaker-0: Okay, you're welcome. Good job babe. speaker-1: ⁓ my god, that tastes horrible. speaker-0: It's fitting for the show. ⁓ speaker-1: It is how is it fitting for the show? speaker-0: Would he drink the beer? speaker-1: ⁓ god, but another fun fact that was no egg white in beer. I was speaker-0: I can see that the way it was. Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: ⁓ God, alright. ⁓ so when did you guys first see this movie? Did see it in the theater? Did you? Yeah. I didn't see this one in the theater. Okay. I actually saw American Pie 2 and American Wedding in the theater. I never saw American Reunion in the theater, but the first one I saw on ⁓ speaker-0: when it first came out. speaker-1: DVD or something like that I remember there was also an uncut edition because it was already unrated edition when unrated editions were becoming a huge big thing on DVD because I think DVD started like in the 2099 or something like that when it's when a DVD start speaker-0: Google food speaker-1: Because I remember that all VHSs didn't have like the unrated cuts but then when DVDs came out that's when they started releasing unrated cuts to a lot of movies and directors cuts and stuff like that. And the different versions like there's a whole list of stuff that changed this movie because it almost got it. speaker-0: US release was in 97. That's when the first US DVD player was released. But of course it took a little bit of time to start gaining. speaker-1: was a nice. In fact, think the DVDs were like the flip disc too, where basically you have to flip the disc to have the movie on one side, the movie on the other side, which were annoying as fuck, or you couldn't tell which side was the special features and what side was the... speaker-0: It was 2001 when DVD players outsold VCRs for the first time. That's when they became more popular. speaker-1: actually had this on VHS. I actually remember having this on VHS. I had it. And I had the, remember there was a ultimate edition. It was one of those clear universal ultimate edition discs where it had the unrated cut of this movie, which like I said, couple seconds here, couple seconds here, but like the pie fucking scene, there's two different versions of it. There's a version where he's standing up fucking the pie. speaker-0: and DVD. Another one where he's laying on the- speaker-1: where he's actually fucking it on the island. That's on the unrated cut and stuff like that, which actually the film was originally rated NC-17 by the MPAA. But the thing about it took three resubmissions to obtain in our rating. A few scenes had to be added or trimmed to achieve the rating. This is funny because all these scenes right here, when you think about it, when you look at the movies nowadays, they get away with a lot of shit now than compared to what they did in the 90s, because this stuff is really tame. The main reason for the MPAA's NC-17 rate decision was the infamous pie scene when the original cut Jim did four thrusts into the pastry too many for an hour. The filmmakers wound up setting it up to only two thrusts. speaker-0: So what's you're only able to do two thrusts and two speaker-1: Two thrusts instead of four thrusts. Is that fucking stupid or what? speaker-0: I they have to draw a line realistically somewhere. They have to draw a line somewhere. So they have to have everything for four thrust and more. Yeah. a more showing, showing more of a sexual act than just a glance. Not a lot of drop like a single fuck in a PG 13 movie, but you multiple fucks. That's too many. speaker-1: in C-17, yeah. There's there's some PG-13 movies that get away with like three or four fucks American president had four fucks. There's a couple other movies with PG-13 that get away with fucks, but they're more of a dramatic I think they the director appeals the MPA to get it down and they you know get for strong speaker-0: They have certain standards that go by hard set rules and they have to be very weird and arbitrary sounding because they have to draw a line somewhere. speaker-1: Right. Then the dirtier dialogue during the opening scrambled porno scene, which you remember those days. Oh yeah. You remember those fucking days. Yeah. I saw it I saw it too. See when he does it, it was the same thing for us. Cause you remember where that one time where the fucking screen just freezes. Got right. I got to see fucking good channel 25, the Playboy channel. You remember cause we live in the same area. But the scramming porno, the line, ride me like a pony was a busy blow your wad on my tits. So that would have given it NC 17 rating. speaker-0: Are you? That's right. speaker-1: blow your water my tits and also spank my hairy ass was really play play with my hairy balls. Okay. After Stifler swigs ejaculate laced be swigs the ejaculate laced beer. Kevin asked him, Hey Stifler, how's the pale ale? The lime was originally Hey Stifler. How's the man chowder that was NC 17. Yeah, it was, but how was band chowder going to give it that one word? It's not even a curse word and it's going to get it because everything speaker-0: It's only used when you're talking about fucking cum. All right. Pale ale. can use the double on top implication behind. speaker-1: Peri-sexual explicit. When Nadia is seen masturbating in Jim's porn magazine, the filmmakers had to cut the sight of her placing her hand down her panties by a couple of seconds. Just a couple of seconds. The scene when Kevin goes down on Vicky was a little too long. Some of her moaning had to be cut. That's basically what winded up so it didn't get an NC-17 rating. Not really. I mean, to tell you the truth, if you were to think of all four movies altogether, which one do you think is the more crudest? Out of the four. Like the more sexually explicit, more crudest. speaker-0: It's not really a whole bunch. speaker-1: I would almost say American Pie 2, but American Pie wedding comes very close because American Pie 2 you have the whole fucking, you know, pissing scene where they're pissing on stuff. speaker-0: I'd rather go with you reunion. Yeah, I think reunion was cruder got away with more shit. Well, speaker-1: because it was released more because I think it was like 15 years later or something like that. think it was released. don't remember the date. 12. Yeah. 12 years. speaker-0: thousand Yeah, yeah. 13 years. Oh yeah. We missed her, you know, 10 year reunion by a few years, but yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I think that was probably had cruder elements. speaker-1: Yeah, I think like I said to me this movie when you watch it now and you look at the sex economies that come out not like sex drive sex drive is extremely more graphic and more explicit than this movie even in the theatrical form But there's a lot more movies like that that are just get away with a lot more nudity You know showing full frontal and everything else that they would give it NC 17 back in the 90s But when it comes to now that you get away with it more so that's why speaker-0: I'm honestly surprised it got an NC seven or it didn't get an NC 17 just for how long Nadia was fucking topless. That it was a long fucking time. speaker-1: Talking about, there's that type of fucking long-intimidate of fucking tits is in the 80s movies like constantly. speaker-0: They show it a lot and stuff like that they do flashes but this was several minutes of her just sitting around topless several fucking minutes All right, it was in masturbating. Yes. Well, that wasn't several minutes worth no combined with the whole entire scene which speaker-1: actually is a scene I actually want to talk about. speaker-0: ⁓ surprise, surprise. ⁓ speaker-1: fucking dance scene with Jim and how he's trying to get fucking- alright, could you see this being done nowadays? With the B2 movement and everything else. A lot with this movie. speaker-0: No, there's lot of problematics. Not even that movement there that wouldn't have anything to do with the implication of the the stealth filming of this chick and then putting it online Yeah, that is illegal. That is absolutely against the fucking law now ⁓ speaker-1: When in America by two when Jim's dad said it was brought up at the PTA meeting Yeah, I'm surprised that that wouldn't that put Jim in fucking jail for what it wasn't everything speaker-0: There wasn't a thing then. speaker-1: In the early 90s speaker-0: That type of putting porn on, you know, from a non-consenting person online, that actually didn't become illegal until just a handful of years ago. Yeah. That's how slow it takes to catch up, laws to catch up to technology. You know, like, before that, there's a huge thing of revenge porn, you know, being put out, you know, guys and girls making their fucking sex tapes and then breaking up and then people putting that shit online and not having the consent. they had the consent to even film it, but they did not have the consent to put it online. ⁓ That's all consent. That's all. speaker-1: What about Bing Bus? Yeah, I know stage and everything else, but there's been some stuff that works actually real where they actually Don't get the person's consent It would be a leo speaker-0: Then that then that's illegal then they have to take it down. That's why even our state fucking pornhub is no longer speaker-1: Wow, I think a lot of states are actually starting to take it out actually speaker-0: Yeah, it's... ⁓ it's... The weird laws they swung the pendulum the other way putting so much potential punishment on the website hosting rather than the person who posted it. so, Pornhub chose to, all right, we can't take this fucking chance because random Joe Schmoe may post something and then it comes out that this person didn't have all the legal fucking documents and shit like that and were fucking held liable now because of Virginia's laws. ⁓ And multiple other states and stuff like that are coming out. But there's still plenty of porn sites. They're like fuck it. We'll take the chance. ⁓ Well, basically speaker-1: What you think about this is that you know the the kids right here putting Nadia in this whole situation and everything else It's a whole me too movement that would have a problem with this. There's a lot of other things in this movie. Like what other things speaker-0: just the me too movement. just think that is that's being disrespectful as a human being. It is but it puts put somebody doing something sexual online like that without their consent. Well, I have no problem. speaker-1: You think a revenge on the nerds did the same thing when they did the whole panty raid and so on. speaker-0: When he fucking raped that chick yes, yes, he raped her yeah, he raped her ⁓ speaker-1: He did. I guess that was the eighties. speaker-0: It's okay, but the 80s. I'm not saying that at all. I'm not saying that all but the yeah I mean the speaker-1: The 80s has got away with a lot more things, but. speaker-0: You know why I'm not saying is it didn't have the technology that there is today. Yeah, that's true. And everyone was a lot more Was less uptight. Yeah everything speaker-1: Everything was like it is right now like everybody's offended speaker-0: Big things. Yeah, yeah, I'm not I Do a hundred percent agree the postification of America and the oversensitivity and stuff like that, but there still are some common common decency that you should treat other human beings and Pretending to be you know one person just to fuck but you know this person this chick and stuff like that Yeah, that's kind of fucked up ⁓ speaker-1: What other parts in this movie do you find controversial? speaker-0: ⁓ Not to say just this movie, ⁓ so in American pie too, when he's going to band camp to visit, ⁓ Michelle, and walks by that scene of underage girls playing with their flows, like, ⁓ no bad boy, bad boy, bad boy. You're a bad boy. Yeah. Under age up miners. speaker-1: You're talking about the other case. Yeah speaker-0: doing sexual acts that's heavily applied. It's like, it's kind of fucked up. It is. Yeah. Yeah. She told them. Yeah, exactly. But for that, they didn't necessarily need to fucking show that there was no reason to show his implied perversion. We'll see that particular and that perversion. speaker-1: You're going by wood. Yes. This scene over here with Michelle. speaker-0: So the end of the story is you had to kiss the guy for 20 seconds. Yes! And he was such a dork. And everyone laughed at me, but I didn't care because it was so funny. I get it. ⁓ and this one time at band camp, I stuck a flute in my pussy. Excuse me? Great line, though. It is, but It was a great fucking line. speaker-1: But for many years Bandcamp speaker-0: Yeah, everything was. And band camp. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, absolutely. speaker-1: It became a huge fucking joke and fuck- ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah, it was great! was wonderful! The fact that it doesn't matter what group you are, you can be a sexual being. No, I it was a great thing that they fucking. speaker-1: Yeah, no, but what I'm saying is that this phrase right here, this term, I don't think this term was ever used before and it was brought up in this movie and now it's ⁓ a well-known term. No He's our milk guy one of you know, I guess that's what they are in the Yes! Uh-huh. It had like some fucking like disagreement or something like that. They were away from each other and then he never know. It either. Yes. It was fucking perfect, but it's funny because that term was never used before. And I think that, you think that came from this movie? Because I never heard it before. speaker-0: I don't think so. It didn't come from the movie. It was used beforehand. speaker-1: Okay, then maybe that's what it came with because I never heard it said when I was a you know, teenager in high school and stuff like that until after this movie and then it's used just about every word fucking Shit, we even have a podcast or network. That's got the word milk in it I mean the milk and me podcast check them out on the deluxe edition network, but seriously speaker-0: It's weird that there's two dudes hosting that, I think. It's joke. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, that's it went over my head. I got it now. I got come on civil mind. Don't you don't start speaker-0: You're about to say anything. about to say. Like a beaten child. Simple Jack. to God. You can yourself, Simple Jack. ⁓ Because we all know you don't go full retard. Unless your name's Ron, then a daily. No, he doesn't go full retard. He does. ⁓ OK. Nah. A three quarter. speaker-1: No, but also. Shut the fuck up. No, I don't. Shut the fuck up. All right. This is the funny thing about the, all right, you know, Jim fucking the pie and stuff like that. So at one point speaker-0: How many pies did they ruin? ⁓ speaker-1: Ho ho ho ho! It took six hours to shoot that scene. Fuck off! It took six hours to shoot that scene to get all the different angles and different versions of it. First assistant director J.B. Rogers would run up and adjust Jason's pants between takes in the theatrical version. He's standing up in the kitchen corner in the unrated version. He's on top. They went through at least 20 pies. Wow. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. But the funny thing is, at one point the producers tried to see if they can get Jim to bang an actual McDonald's apple pie. Because we go back to this scene right here. speaker-0: Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're the one with the girlfriend and you're still sharing it on third base. know what third base feels like, okay? You're still just a bat boy. What are you talking about? Guys, what exactly does third base feel like? You want to take this one? speaker-1: Hey, at least warm apple pie speaker-0: Yeah? Yeah. Apple pie, huh? Uh-huh. McDonald's are homemade. Gentlemen? speaker-1: So the thing about this is that they try to get Jim to bang an actual McDonald's apple pie after an awkward phone call with McDonald's representatives, the fast food company declined. They eventually went with a Costco apple pie. So when you think about those apple pies, speaker-0: feels small to me. It's like a random algorithm bang. speaker-1: Yeah, do you think that would have been funnier with him trying to do more speaker-0: It would be more like watching him try to a pocket pussy then But I mean All right, and that's why it's a pocket pussy all right, it's yeah, trapezoid transportable Yeah, it would have seen him jerking his fucking dick. It was funnier to watch him fucking a pie Yes, and having his dad walk in on him speaker-1: a bad small pocket pussy that's And then having the great cameo and James on Bob strike back as the coming back as the pie fucker Yes, you remember that with I think it was what were the other two actors that were playing? the roles because Jason Biggs was playing silent Bob, I believe and David van er van der Beek or something. Yeah, better be Vanderbeek was playing Got that Jay and everything else you ever seen that sound Bob strike back. Yeah, that was a little funny cameo and said I'm I'm always speaker-0: That is the pie fucker. always thinks that. speaker-1: I fuck pies. So, but yeah, there's a lot of funny moments in the first movie. I mean, a lot of us kind of, know, re- speaker-0: Every one of these main characters, it's just like they were getting ready to break out into big stardom. Like, yeah, exactly. They all ended up falling flat on the face. speaker-1: I'm really dead. No, no, Sean William Scott was really the only one that really got upset. speaker-0: Either now ⁓ speaker-1: big Shannon Elizabeth. speaker-0: No, she was a few things. Yeah, you say Oz, but I mean, he's only been in a couple of other movies. He was so. Should have been. Yeah, they were getting propped up as if they were going to be big, but they never really did. He fucking fell off after her fucking boss job and she just skankness. Whatever her name is. She's probably the most successful now of all of them. speaker-1: He was in a parley brothers movie She looks, yeah, she's like She's a lot of shit. Sean Williams Scott is I say Sean Williams Scott is a strong second then speaker-0: Last time you saw something with starring Sean, William Scott good. Well, and how many years ago was that? And the the chicken plate Jennifer, she has a fucking ⁓ a hit show that she's a fucking elite character on right now. It's like an Iowa Jennifer. Yeah. Natasha, whatever name is or whatever. ⁓ speaker-1: I think it was like 2015 or- ⁓ she's done a lot of things, actually. speaker-0: Yeah, is probably the most successful of all of them. All right. Poker face. Yes. speaker-1: know what you're talking about. know the guy who Eddie K. Thomas who plays Finch. The only thing I saw him was in Freddy Got Fingered. You remember Freddy Got Fingered? He was in that. speaker-0: Yeah. uh, mean us remember me to serve. but still supposed to be big for a man. speaker-1: Yeah, but when you think about it, Sean, Scott start with movies like with the rock fucking stars, Dean Hutch and right there a lot of big movies. speaker-0: ⁓ They were doing a big push behind them. Yeah, and then just fucking fell flat. Yeah, Tara Reid had a bunch of shit that she was in. I remember. think they're really good. Well, she was sharknado. Ben Wilder. You know, and she was of all. The power met your father. speaker-1: That was good. I don't even Yeah, she was high She was part of the also in the Buffy Vampire Slayer show, think or something like that. The way mother, not Angel or whatever the fuck they are. But no, I mean, Jason Biggs did a couple things here and there. I mean, I know he's been in a couple of movies and stuff like that. I remember he was in like boys and girls and loser and some other movies and stuff like that. But I don't know, I because Chris Klein speaker-0: All of them had pushes behind them. speaker-1: You know, you know Chris Klein didn't come back for American wedding because he expected to get paid more so he didn't come back But then he got back for American reunion because he early wasn't having a career when you're not it But it was cool to see him all come back for American reunion. Just almost every single one came back. So What do you all think? speaker-0: all their fucking god damn careers and fucking die by then speaker-1: I think everybody, I think just about everybody came back. speaker-0: fucking shit fucking went nowhere. Yeah, all the careers were dead by then. ⁓ I love that. He's the best one. I love that. He's amazing. He's the best. I love watching Eugene Levy. ⁓ I love what his son's doing now. He's a very talented, awkward guy. Yeah, every role he is he plays that slightly awkward feeling dude. speaker-1: How about Eugene Livy? What do you all think of Jim's dad? He's like the most, but he's the most positive dad that you would ever like, if you speaker-0: But every character he plays, every character he plays is positive. speaker-1: And that's why I actually this episode made me want to do a Tasting Room episode down the road, Top 5 Movie Dads and Top 5 Movie Moms. And I think he's going to be on some people's list because he's a great movie dad. He's one of the best. And the fact that he's actually played in every single American Pie movie except the new one that came out, which is American Pie where it's just girls. It was the last direct to video movie. That's the only one that he didn't star in. But he was in every other single one playing at least like 15, 20 minute role or something like that. but he cameoed in every single one, but I thought that he was just one of the best parts of the movie. ⁓ But to ask you for your favorite character, who is your favorite character in the American Pie, the first movie? And I guess you would say the whole American Pie legacy, all the American Pie movies put together, what character do you enjoy or maybe you were late to? speaker-0: you speaker-1: See, I kind of... speaker-0: I ⁓ Jim's dad the most. Yeah. I mean, that goes without saying, but speaker-1: Okay. I almost want you to- speaker-0: I might go with Tashel Leon. I might go with Jessica's character. I might go with her. speaker-1: She's got the shortest roll, she's actually pretty, yeah, she's. speaker-0: She's very real. Yeah. And everything she fucking does. Just fucking real world. speaker-1: She went with Finch's whole idea when Finch was trying to be told that you know he got laid and all that stuff and she got paid but she returns the money and buys him fucking flash. She buys the earrings. She buys the earrings and gets him the flash. speaker-0: It's only part of the money. Yeah. A small part of the money went to him. speaker-1: But yeah, still you see her in the fucking prom like just with her fucking headset and stuff like that. Then she comes back as a fucking lesbian in the fourth movie. I that was pretty funny. Yeah, it was it was kind of laid out from the other movies and stuff like that. But so you would go with a touch of Lyon's character. speaker-0: Yeah How real she was throughout the entire time. speaker-1: Not counting Jim's dad. I'm talking about more of like the the teenager characters. Who would you go with? speaker-0: Hmm... All the city fucking characters. speaker-1: I liked Finch. I really liked Finch. that's what I loved about him. I loved his whole fucking beef with Stifler. Oaz? speaker-0: Very deuce. Very. Eyes was very fake to me. He was. Very fake. speaker-1: Well, it really showed an American Union how fake it was. But you're talking about in character wise? speaker-0: I mean, that's how poorly written the character was. All right. I Kevin Kine or Chris Kline, what was fucking amiss. ⁓ He really tried his best to act with a very shallowly written fucking character. give him credit. Yeah. All right. So I'm not taking away anything the actor did. speaker-1: He was. speaker-0: It was, it's this jock, but ⁓ no, he has a heart of gold. ⁓ he's sensitive. Yeah. Okay. Really? Haven't seen that done a billion fucking times before. All right. And at least they were fucking more understanding. Fucking Lucas did a much better job of having a jock character. Yeah. That was what, they need to be fucking sensitive. ⁓ Lucas wasn't that, no. You don't remember the movie Lucas? The movie Lucas. ⁓ speaker-1: Which one was Lucas? I don't know what that movie is. What is Luke in? speaker-0: That's got, ⁓ think it's Sean William Scott. Yeah, the 1986 film with Corey Haynes. Haynes, that's what I don't know what Where joined the football team, did it like that? Yeah. And that character actually had some fucking depth. Yeah. the sensitive fucking jock. speaker-1: Yeah, I know what you're Yeah, okay, okay. ⁓ speaker-0: It's bad enough that besides Stifler Jim and Finch I have to keep racking my mind remember Oz's name and Kevin's name. I really have to fucking rack my god's speaker-1: Yes, I agree with you and even Sammy was saying that why is he even in this movie like he's the most annoying character even in the third movie American wedding He was kind of non-existent speaker-0: He was supposed to be the normal. ⁓ speaker-1: He was the one that always had the issues that needed to be talked about and stuff like that. speaker-0: Yeah, but the normal guy is what he was me. Jim was the horned up nerdy guy. Oz was the jock with a heart of gold. Finch was the the douchey guy who think theater nerd that thinks he's above everybody and so mature. Stifler is just the fucking jerk. And then you had Kevin, he's supposed to be the normal guy, the average guy guy. To the point that I was having a conversation about speaker-1: We all know a stifler. speaker-0: just doing these and one guy actually said he thought Kevin was the main character of the American Pie. like how the fuck could you picture Kevin in the main speaker-1: He's not Fucking issues that they all have to talk about stuff like that. So, know what I think about Jim though ⁓ it's gonna be going back to when we talk to you porkies movies Jim is almost like basically a a 90s version of peewee from porkies speaker-0: No, Peewee had balls. Peewee was willing to fucking do shit. Jim is a bitch. speaker-1: ⁓ no, Both were learning as they were going and stuff like that. And he was a whore. speaker-0: Jim had to be pushed into everything he He was wanting to try anything. He wanted to do anything or everything. can't... Too scared to do anything. He was too scared because he didn't know the fucking consequence of what the fuck could happen to him. speaker-1: Can't wait till we Or just like an American pie too when he's fucking the chick in the beginning. He's like, oh, oh now I remember, you know, he's trying to figure He's a fucking idiot doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and stuff like that but Okay, so I got Finch you got Natasha and you got Oz. Yeah, sure. Are you sticking with us? Yep. Okay So what is your favorite scene and the first American pie movie? Like what scene really made you laugh like it was most hilarious scene to you because there's multiple scenes in this movie speaker-0: Just go. Probably the flute in pussy line that were there just how out of left field it was. Yeah, the timing on it was fucking perfection. It really was. They said all movie they set up this fucking joke all fucking movie. This bitch just talking about fucking bandcamp bandcamp bandcamp band. You weren't expecting. Out of nowhere. Yep. And then Jason Biggs character played it fucking well. Like he was only half listening like what? speaker-1: You were in a You know the say my name bitch. Yeah was actually ad-lib and the director is like I'm keeping that in so that was completely ad-lib, but I think that was fun Yeah, it worked out perfectly. What's your favorite? What's my name bitch? There you go. ⁓ My see if I had to pick my favorite scene I would probably go with when Stifler is trying to get with the chick on the bed in the end everything else and he drinks the fucking beer speaker-0: That one right there. What's my name, bitch? speaker-1: It's his fucking words that he's saying to her says, come on, take it slow and let the good times roll. And then he drinks the beer. That scene right there was fucking hilarious. The stale, the stale ale. So I would say that one, but there's most speaker-0: I'm gonna say he recognized the taste of cum really fucking quickly. The second I his lips he's like, cum. my God. He's not bright enough to put two and two together. Yeah, so it's firsthand experience. That's the only way that could be. Fucking half of the lacrosse team was gay. I thought they were wrestling. Just in a different way. There wasn't a winner that night. speaker-1: ⁓ What they go with? ⁓ my god speaker-0: Well, there was. speaker-1: Well, the thing about is all these kids in American pie. Have you seen kids like these in high school when you went to high school? Yeah. Like, can you relate and see a lot of kids? speaker-0: I mean, these were very one dimensional representations of these people. yeah. But thing is, though, is that what you see on screen is what they were. So you're right. Yeah. mean, one dimensional. Yeah, they were very one dimensional and but they represented several personality types. Right. speaker-1: So when submitting his scripts to the studio, screenwriter Adam Hertz titled this movie Untitled Teenage Sex Comedy that could be made for under 10 million, which studio readers will likely hate, but I think will love. It was later. speaker-0: the title that was a good title that was fucking title because you're going to catch their attention yeah it's gonna be memorable but yeah it works alright let's fucking be honest alright let me go ahead and give it a shot right speaker-1: Well, it was originally see this where it was later changed to other titles ahead East Grand Rapids High, then East Great Falls High, then Great Falls and then finally American Pie. So when you think about it, it kind of reminds me of Fast Times or Ridgemont High. They try to go with the title of the school and stuff like that. Would you think that would have been better? think American Pie? speaker-0: American Pirates because it's trying to tell the story of American teenagers and so yeah, just fits. search of the pie. speaker-1: Yeah. Now there's another, I got some cast choices that were different, just a couple, not actually only two really. So Bill Murray was expected to play Jim's dad. speaker-0: I love Bill Murray. Adrian Levy was better. speaker-1: No, I agree. Yeah, I agree. Could you see Bill Murray doing that? speaker-0: It would have been more about him. speaker-1: ⁓ And then the studio's top choice for Jim was Jonathan Taylor Thomas. speaker-0: God they didn't. speaker-1: Yeah, so and Sean William Scott was only paid $8,000 for the role of Steve Stifler, his first feature length film. I mean, it's not really a big fact. I mean, usually when you start and stuff, something like that, you only get paid like sometimes six shit, go fucking work for like, speaker-0: He a decent size roll for over 8,000. God. speaker-1: I thought, see, the thing is when you think of all the characters, you got this main group of kids. Stifler was kind of a side character written in the movie that people love so much that he became more in the other movies. speaker-0: but he has a lot of fucking, a lot of lines for an $8,000 paycheck. What's up, dude? You coming to party tonight, Ozzy? You fuckface? How about you guys actually locate your dicks, remove the shrink wrap, and fucking use them! Alright, I'll see you guys tonight. No, no fucking section. for the stiff I'll be back for you later. Vicky! Jessica! Great to see you! Glad you could make it! Sherman! Hey! What the fuck are you doing here? You actually sent that? No. He did not throw him out. Shut up. You guys are pathetic. I'm gonna find myself a little hotty. Stop me, beautiful! I you need your balls reattached. What the fuck are doing here? You dipshit. You're expecting to score with some goody goody choir girl Pris? These guys sucked ass. Choir chick, hell are you doing here? Yeah! Yeah baby! Get that high seat! my god, you're gay. Mom? You should break. speaker-1: Which actually starts the whole ordeal with Finch's mom. mean sorry, Stifler's mom and Finch. Going throughout the whole series. Was fucking great. speaker-0: Which I'm sorry, I... If I'm Stifler, I could never be in that room with Finch again. Ever. I mean, it'd be violence on site. Alright, so the fact that they made Stifler fucking swallow his fucking pride and cut off his balls in future films was bullshit. speaker-1: Well, remember there was a little scene in American Pie 2, I believe, where it shows like a picture of graduation. You see Stifler standing right next to his mom and Finch right there putting his arm around and he's just looking all pissed off and he's just letting it happen. Yeah. So I don't think you could. speaker-0: Stiff was a cuck. Yeah Because in each of them each of the movies you don't ever see him getting any action ever No They don't speaker-1: pinch or stifler they show with him in bed with the lesbians in American politics speaker-0: they do at the end yeah but that's probably the closest speaker-1: No, well he yeah, he also fucked. ⁓ he fucked the grandma in American wedding speaker-0: And he they don't show it, but he did is confirmed that he got blown by that chick that he saw again at the reunion. Oh, hey, Blockowitz or something like that. It was in the block with the bit. It was it was a Hebrew last night. I don't know what it was. speaker-1: I'm dead Block Wits is fuckin' speaker-0: It was the reason I think it's good blowjob block with sounds like a nickname. ⁓ I he would sound a lot fucking better But it was definitely a Jewish last name. Yeah, it was blowjob ⁓ Lippowitz Lickowitz something like that speaker-1: Good job, Lip- or, fuck, now I gotta fucking look it up. Keep talking about it, I'm curious. Google. Yeah. ⁓ speaker-0: But no, like, I mean... blow-dry block of whips. I've done that in your search history. Your phone's gonna get a virus. speaker-1: Who blew Stifler in American Reunion? Alright, let's see, what's her name? Colin Kaepernick, what the It didn't look it up. speaker-0: a good answer though. That's a good answer. Good job Google. ⁓ speaker-1: ⁓ Who started kneeling in the, in the studio in Stiffler and American reunion, I added to what I added before. ⁓ who blew. Stiffler and American Reunion. All right, let's see here. let's see. It's speaker-0: Okay, her character name first name was Lonnie Lonnie Lippowitz speaker-1: ⁓ Yes, no, yeah, now hold on can't find it in here Yeah, I guess you have to look on American Union IMDB to see who the fucking It's like lipstick mincy or Mandy or something like that. It was like something like that fat chick hold on actually I think she god damn it I don't know who it was lipstick speaker-0: Yes, sir. ⁓ This is Lonnie on IMDB field. Yeah, this is Lonnie speaker-1: Rebecca Did you just say Lonnie? Yeah. Okay. Well, well, I'm like. speaker-0: Sorry, was Lonnie fucking Lipowitz or Lickowitz or some shit. speaker-1: Well, the funny thing is that she got her fucking revenge on him and had him go down on her and get fucking pubes in his fucking face. Like his face was covered in fucking... ⁓ my God. speaker-0: That bitch fucking glitched. She had alopecia. speaker-1: but the great thing ⁓ he through the Shermanator yeah the fuck which was by the way also Shermanator also fucked fucking Jim didn't fuck not yet sure later did so sure interaction was with some hot chicks in the fucking movies speaker-0: But you know what? He hooked Sherman. Yeah Just one you just call Bonnie. Hi. No, I'm You just But he fucked her Why you just said Lonnie was hot just like Mia was Just throw that out there speaker-1: I didn't. It used to be. I your book she was. But that's modern day. Well, mistake on my part. There you go. So. speaker-0: What, am I getting beautiful to you? You judgmental fucking prick. Fuck you. Fuck you, ⁓ speaker-1: Anyways. speaker-0: Thickums? Sound like stickums? Exactly. speaker-1: The great thing about this whole Finch-Stiffler legacy and how Finch was taken so for his mom is then at the American reunion, ⁓ the high school reunion that they went to, we see this happen. speaker-0: He's getting laid but me. This sucks. Excuse me. Hi. I'm looking for Paul Finch. Have you seen him in the room? What do you want with Finch? I'm here to pick him up. I'm his mom. Music was his mom. I mean, you're Finch's mom. Yeah. speaker-1: Hi. Perfect. speaker-0: Are you a friend of his? ⁓ yeah! Paul's like my best friend. I love him so much. More now than ever before. In fact, I can't believe we haven't met. I'm Steven Stifler. I'm Rachel. What? What is it? I just got this feeling like something really bad's about to happen. Don't worry. I'll be as quiet as a church mouse. You know, when I was in high school, I dated a lacrosse boy. It was perfect. You don't say. speaker-1: music right here. Okay. speaker-0: You know, I always wanted Paul to be more into sports, but he just was never that interested. You don't have to sugarcoat it. Finch was a klutz. Yeah, I guess he was, but he did not get that from me. I was head cheerleader. And if there's anything I learned from lacrosse players, it's that I like to handle a stick. And cradle those balls. Let's party. You ready for me? Stifler? yeah! ⁓ speaker-1: The thing about that is at the end when they're they're walking down the street and they were asking who he got lay with his as a gentleman never tail tells but then the camera zooming out and he says I just speaker-0: What? speaker-1: ⁓ my god, see that was a great speaker-0: But when he was fucking fist of mom and then they zoom out and this the milk guy John child or John Chow or Joe Okay, I'm just sitting in the fucking stands just sit there watching him. Yeah, so depressed looking That made me so happy that made me so happy for them speaker-1: You're the Bill Guy show it's the was a good ending. was a very good ending. like I said, all the movies, in my opinion, are just fun. They're nostalgic and they tell a story, but you know, it's not the best writing and stuff like that. They're just the comedies. Comedies can be, you know, there's other sex comedies that are probably even better, but these are more... speaker-0: definitely are sex comedies that are better. speaker-1: Would you say sex drive is better than these? speaker-0: I think Seth's Drive is actually funnier than these. It's cruder, it's simple, but it knows what it wants to be. It's like, fuck it, we're not telling some bullshit, somewhat grounded fucking story. We're just going to tell a fucked up story the entire time and have fun with it. speaker-1: It can be. Alright, so I'm gonna ask you guys. No, that's true. I'm gonna ask you guys. What is your favorite scene? Not come the first one because we basically already talked about the first one, but your favorite scene out of the three sequels combined. What is your favorite scene? Something that really is just hilarious to you. I'll start with you, Stu. speaker-0: Alright, and the second one when he's at the band camp with Michelle's character, and she's... Yes, right there. It was like, all right, don't freak out. I'm going to push your boundaries. then fucking trumpet right in there. And then afterwards you see that fucking band director just playing the fucking trumpet in silhouette. speaker-1: Trumpet. But he smells it and then he goes right back and starts... What the fuck was that? speaker-0: You're not thinking somebody shoved it in their asshole. Okay. Man, I need to brush my teeth. speaker-1: shit you're gonna put it back to your mouth Yeah, that was a weird. speaker-0: It was just so once again something that was out of the fucking blue totally unexpected Yeah, and it played so well expect like that even this is zooming out and Seeing just in the silhouette the dude playing the fucking trumpet. Yeah after what this happened. I was like this is Basic fucking humor. It knows it's basic fucking you do it speaker-1: second part yeah the part where it showed him with his fucking mouth like what the fuck was on his ⁓ speaker-0: Fucked up. Yeah, I like that shit all over his mouth. Yeah. He got the dookie bud all over his lips. All right. So. So it's bullshit. Everyone wants a piece of my sir. speaker-1: I'm gonna ask yours speaker-0: Yes. This whole scene right here, like the entire, not just this scene here, but like the entire scene of him going into the gay bar. ⁓ Because the other three went into various other bars. speaker-1: Because I think they were trying to look for Leslie for the dressmakers. speaker-0: ⁓ And they couldn't find him and Like he just happens to walk into the fucking gay bar right on that block He's Like a stifler stupid he's fucking funny and he just doesn't put two and two together And he does stifler does what stifler does yes, and then this Amazing fucking scene fucking shows up and it's speaker-1: Do you remember who the guy that he's dancing with is? speaker-0: I definitely recognize him, can't f***ing f***ing well. speaker-1: Alright, two movies. True romance. was one of the security guards at the end with the Hollywood guy. Little John from Men in Tights. He lost weight, got more built and everything else, but yeah, that's him. And I thought he played, I think his fucking, he was hilarious in this movie. Actually, they do ⁓ the bachelor party. He's part of the fucking ass. Playing the fucking bachelor and everything. But no, you're right. This fucking scene right here, that just the music and all, the whole mix and everything, and then going back and forth at each other. It's fucking funny. It is funny. And the thing is, this is my least favorite of the American pie movies, but this scene does stand out a lot and stiff is just doing all these dance moves is fucking great. So that's a fucking great scene right there. so if I had to pick, ⁓ see, this is the fight sequence at the American reunion when Jim and Michelle, when Jim's were in the fucking leather shit. speaker-0: Ron. speaker-1: Well, that whole scene even when Eugene Levy is coming out of the window when the cops are coming in. speaker-0: He ⁓ speaker-1: Yes. And then you see it says, mess with the night or don't mess us. We're the nineties or something like that when they're about the, class of 1999. Yeah. And, uh, you see Michelle coming out there with a whip, Hey, my husband and starting to do with her fucking BSDM shit. But, yes. speaker-0: Flip those around No, no, he flipped him around speaker-1: B.S.M.D. BMSD. Am I still wrong? Yes. What is it? speaker-0: BDSM. That was like six times, dude. You fucked that shit up. speaker-1: Give me the fuck. Damn it. I'll spin the wheel. I don't know how I got that mixed up. speaker-0: SMD so he went to college. Bullshit doctor. ⁓ speaker-1: ⁓ fuck, here we go. Click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. self-destruct. Okay. Oh no. I don't mind that at all. All right. Uh, my Lord's right there. We'll go ahead and take a shot right here. Uh, right. You want to go ahead and pour So no, but seriously, I appreciate it. Seriously, the scene when they're all fighting and when Stiffler goes out there and he's like, I'm going to fucking kill you. And they said when he made fun of him calling the stiff Meister, yeah, that whole fucking scene, just all of them getting together, but also just seeing Jim coming down the stairs, wearing the shit and like stiff was like, Jim, what the fuck are you wearing? It was just speaker-0: You know that's from right what that scene speaker-1: An American Union? Yeah. What? speaker-0: Grownups 2 speaker-1: I've only seen grownups one, I've never seen grownups two. That? Yes it is. What's leaking? The top. Were you pouring it with the little thing at the bottom? That's probably the reason why. The little thing at the bottom? I don't even know what I just said. speaker-0: The is leaking. July. Exactly what I fucking said you said. speaker-2: Bro! speaker-1: Cheers everybody. Cheers. speaker-0: Next thing. with the It's fucking stupid. I get it the first time when they're when they're making their Their pack to fucking get laid and lose their virginity, right? You know to take the next step in their evolution of of manhood and whatnots. Yeah for them But I thought the second time made more sense the next they didn't do it the college freshmen are still basically just fucking high schoolers Yeah, right. And so to the next step was actually them stepping really into adult speaker-1: Yeah, but they didn't do it in the third one. They didn't say anything about no next step other than getting married and stuff like that. Well, that's true. They didn't have odds and they also didn't have the other girl, the choir chick. She wasn't in America Waited. ⁓ speaker-0: have Oz. Oz. Yeah. To have to have her and not have laws and doesn't make sense to have Oz and not have her. speaker-1: really curious about when we get to our rankings here. But actually I have an extra question to ask you guys. This is actually something I was thinking of. What do you think is your best scene? The best scene, the best piece of music, like, cause there's a lot of great soundtracks in all these movies. I was probably, go ahead. speaker-0: Question two. Go ahead. Second one. Second one, second movie. Soundtrack for that one. speaker-1: Okay, what scene using the best song? speaker-0: When they're going into town. When they're just... Yeah. speaker-1: ⁓ when Stifler's on the back of the truck. I think that's Sum 41 playing in the background. I think that's Sum 41. Mine's this alien ant farm during the porno and the hand scene when you gloom this fucking cunt. Alien ant farm. ⁓ That's mine right there. I thought that's what you were going to pick. What's yours, Stu? speaker-0: It was funny too. Yeah. Man, I forgot about that. That's a really good one. Yeah, but you already picked that. I will probably pick the party scene where you had. ⁓ Gov, I'm only on Chinese chicken. ⁓ What's name of that fucking band? The fuck? We just heard it during the Stiffler montage. ⁓ speaker-1: ⁓ I know what you're talking about one day. Did you look at me? Fuck what it was in the end? that's ⁓ but but now that's fucking pissing me off that I don't know I know what it is It's just I don't remember it damn bad. Is this like speaker-0: I'm... I'm... ⁓ No, no, no, no, no. Fuck. One day, when you look at me, you'll know that I'm sorry. speaker-1: know the song I just don't remember the band name yes I know it's in your speaker-0: Singer is dead now. The reason I pick that song is speaker-1: That's not Smash Mouth. Mouth. That's not Smash Mouth. Is it Smash Mouth? Yes. That was Smash Mouth? Yeah. Okay, well, no, that's perfect. I thought it was a different I thought it was another band I thinking about. I don't think that was Smash Mouth. Yeah, look that up. It's Bare Naked Ladies. Bare Naked Ladies. But there's another song on there that's not on the soundtrack either. It's the one when they're all getting ready and getting the condoms and stuff like that. speaker-0: Yes, yes, it is. 95 % Well, I will look it up. You're right. You're absolutely right. As I speaker-1: That's not on the soundtrack really it on the CD soundtrack because I remember I love that song when I first saw the movie I wanted to the soundtrack just for that song it wasn't on the soundtrack Yeah, they don't put the full soundtracks on it Yeah, it's just maybe they couldn't get the rights or something like that, but to put it on the CD But that one was a good song I thought that was a very it's a lot of like punk rock and shit that you grew up when you were in high school and stuff like that like a lot of some 41 that's all Blink what he to I mean they made a fucking cameo. Yeah in this ⁓ speaker-0: That's fucked up. good about these movies. speaker-1: Yeah, with the whole fucking Nadia scene, so... What was your question? speaker-0: That was flagpole sit up with the name of the song by Harvey danger speaker-1: for the Barenaked Ladies. speaker-0: No, for the condom thing you're talking about. speaker-1: Yes, I remember I do have it on speaker-0: Run it up the flag foot is yes and see who salutes, but no one ever does what's the name Harvey danger? speaker-1: with the band? I've never heard of that. So it must have been like a warhead. From this movie, that's where I got it from. I've never heard it anywhere else. ⁓ no. I've heard a lot. ⁓ okay. Well, now don't know. All right. So what's your question? speaker-0: Song a million times though. ⁓ yeah No So alright, so this is be considered a crude movie. Yeah, right. Okay, cool. So this is a crude question then okay, right so In the woods down the street from my house when I was 14. No, okay. I'm So I was taking a shit today. Okay, and It came to my it came to my head that why is it that if you Go take a shit, okay? And pop out just a tiny little nugget. And you go to wipe your ass, you gotta use a lot. Brown Crown Effect. Right? But if you dump a fucking log, you barely have to fucking wipe. speaker-1: It's very clear. Please wipe. No, ⁓ I agree. that? Because. speaker-0: Cause you're only out a little shit ⁓ when you still have more shit in you when you drop the nuggets. ⁓ And so you're still wiping the remnants from the rest of that shit that hasn't come out of you versus if you take a big old steamy dookie, then you're clearing yourself out. So there's not much residue left. You don't have a brown crown effect. speaker-1: No, I've had the exact same issue. mean, basically, you, you know, you unload like a fucking two foot log, basically, and there's nothing to wipe. Yep. But sometimes if it's just a little bit and wiping and which you know that there's like residue just coming up. Yeah. Yep. How do speaker-0: You're blind. You're blind. You're wiping it. You push to get it out. Yeah. exactly that's what it is yeah blind people know when to stop wiping feel speaker-1: I always wondered that too myself. speaker-0: They touch and smell. That's kind of a shitty fucking way to live like. speaker-1: Maybe they put the toilet paper to their nose and see if it fucking smells or something like that. speaker-0: How do you know how close to put it to your nose? You can feel when you're getting close to your face. I know right now, ⁓ I'm touching my nose. ⁓ I know it's not touching my nose. speaker-1: ⁓ that's true. The blind person walking out of the bathroom with fucking brown in her nose or his nose and something like that It's like is there something on my nose. I mean speaker-0: assuming it's by the feel, when I'm taking an extra shitty shit, a code brown, just by wiping, know, oh, that's a lot of shit on that wipe, that's a lot of shit on that wipe. It doesn't kill like it close to the end, I'm like, all right. speaker-1: Good question. Real question too. speaker-0: If we have any blind listeners, I don't know if we do if you reach out to us to answer this guy I'm not trying to be crude. I'm sure you've been asked it a thousand times before not speaker-1: Yeah, they probably use wet wipes. speaker-0: But they haven't always had wet wipes. speaker-1: That's true. That's true. speaker-0: And even wet wipes, gotta know when... you still don't know when it's done? Because it's wet, so you think it's... speaker-1: My wife's cleaning it up a lot faster. But that's true. Yeah. It also gives you swamp ass too when you think about it because you have moisture constantly down there with wet wipes. ⁓ speaker-0: I never use them. I only have died. No, I have. Yeah. Yeah, in the field. Yeah. Yeah. Dude wipes. But that drives a lot quicker. does. ⁓ speaker-1: When I was over the road truck driver, I used dude wipes take dude wipes to the fucking truck stops and stuff like that I didn't want to use the toilet paper that has like fucking Cardboard basically. It's like rough. So I like using, know, the dude wipes you can buy a fucking Walmart They're comfortable and everything else. So well, that's a great Great stuff to end our little episode with so we're gonna go ahead and go to our fucking pilot reviews and rankings Shit and blind people. So let's see speaker-0: Better than shit on black people. speaker-1: That's true. This is rude. I agree. So we'll go ahead and start with what we're to do is we're going to rank the movies best to worst. Your favorite one to your least favorite. And then you're going to do your rankings, I mean your pilot reviews on just the first movie alone, which is basically the original, the one that everybody remembers. Of course we like the sequels. In fact, sometimes I like to, some people like the sequels more than the original, but it's still the original movie. So that's the only one we're to review today. So. What is your ranking and then what are your point reviews for the first one? speaker-0: Me? speaker-1: I said Stu first. I said it beforehand. I'm going to start with that. Okay, well, think may. Well, I'm trying. speaker-0: didn't hear that. Yeah, you did not say Sue. I remember saying Sue at all. I didn't hear that. You were looking at me. You were waiting to me. But we are doing an audible podcast. We're doing an audible podcast for our listeners. Not everybody is a Patreon subscriber. That's right. is to then dictate who you're passing the question on to. Which by the way, if you are listening to us, please. That would be nice. speaker-1: True. If you are, he's right. Patreon. Seriously, it's only $5 a month. You get to see the uncut shit. You get to see the fucking drama after the shows, after our breaks, you get to see the fucking. speaker-0: Ron vomit in trash cans. And if you're a true fan of the show, then you know what? You would fucking do it. speaker-1: And I'm $5 a month. It's not that bad. get all the, mean, seriously, I released the episodes a lot earlier on Patreon. We're whoring ourselves out. speaker-0: a little dirty. Yeah, Richard gear come pick me up any minute now. Thank you fucking gerbil. speaker-1: You go first speaker-0: All right. Um, ranking, uh, you said best or worst is the way you want it. All right. Uh, I'm actually going to go American pie too. I think is the most enjoyable. No, no, I'm going go with the most enjoyable of all four of them. Probably followed by reunion. speaker-1: You're not even going with the originals. speaker-0: Then American pie and then wedding. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, every, every one of them had funny scenes here and there and stuff like that and memorable moments. Um, but overall, um, and I haven't had a chance to say this the entire fucking episode. Fuck you, Ron. speaker-1: That's what it is last. Okay? Alright. Shocking. speaker-0: you Rod for ruining another memory of mine. No, this is two. I this is two. Okay. I want to say speaker-1: Is this number three? I ruined Bram Stoker's dragon. speaker-0: I think you've ruined one of Chase's ⁓ in the past. that may be what you're thinking about right there. ⁓ speaker-1: Somebody ruined, ⁓ no that was on BAC. Breakfast Club was ruined apparently. speaker-0: ⁓ But yeah, in my mind American Pie was one of those perfect fucking films that encapsulated the fucking late 90s that time being yeah, and I don't know why I just I haven't in years Years gone back and rewatch this one film but it is one of the films that lived highly in my fucking memory now and then rewatched it I'm like This is kind of dog fucking not good. Yep speaker-1: I know you ⁓ speaker-0: There's so many better comedies, so many better teen comedies, many better sex comedies, so many better 90s comedies. There's so many better fucking films that for any box that you put this in to go to and you have to shit on my fucking goddamn memory. Fuck you, speaker-1: We'll have to see how Porky's goes because I'm curious what you're gonna think of that one now. speaker-0: Oh, very problematic, but it's meant to be crude. It didn't try to tie itself up in some uplifting story that had some crude elements. didn't try to put on airs the way this one fucking speaker-1: Yeah, Porky's too had a lot of uplifting and you know the whole thing about racism trying to get past racism and the first one there's the thing about the whole love story between Pee Wee and the fucking chick I forgot her name. speaker-0: But it is not as a whole, it is not trying to tell this wonderful coming of age story, but set in modern times that, ⁓ we'll throw some crude jokes, but, ⁓ we got the little nerdy boy who finds love, but not who he thought it was going to be. Not the hot chick. No. speaker-1: another little nerdy speaker-0: ⁓ We got the the jock with the heart of gold who falls in love with the choir girl All right, we have the fucking pompous theater dick. All right who gets the hot milk action? It's just so contrived very flat one-dimensional. Yeah, ⁓ had funny parts I know I will never take that away. Okay, it had funny parts it had memorable parts had great throwaway lines. But as a whole, as a film, rewatching it nowadays, honestly, enjoyment, I'm probably gonna have to give it a two and a quarter, I think, and I'm being generous on that. And really, that was cool to me, yeah. speaker-1: you speaker-0: I'm sitting there. It's one of those ones that I'm doing everything I can not to just pick up my phone and start doom scrolling while it's going on. Because I'm trying to watch a movie for speaker-1: ⁓ Would you let your son watch this? Okay. it up. would you watch it again to watch with him to show what? speaker-0: My oldest one? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. ⁓ I let him watch it and I know he will laugh at parts of it, but also I'm pretty sure he'll find some of it fucking boring. Yeah. Okay. and yeah. ⁓ so yeah, that's what the two and a quarter probably for enjoyment and then critical. I'm going to give it a two. I really do. I there's it's very poorly fucking written. ⁓ speaker-1: The test. speaker-0: The acting was mediocre at best, but they weren't given a lot to fucking work with. will say that. yeah. I mean, you're not relying on a bunch of special effects or anything like that. So you can't give anything high on there. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's just like, wow. Okay. Wow. Yeah. Fuck you, Ron. speaker-1: million or 12 million I wasn't expecting- I'm sorry. Fuck you. I'm sorry. Ragnar, how about you buddy? speaker-0: I feel your pain on that. It used to sit very high in the old memory bank. And then watching it is, It's like, if I never rewatched it for the show, I would probably give it like... speaker-1: EEEH speaker-0: maybe a four and ⁓ maybe a four. You know, lived that highly in the memory. Yeah, it really did. You know, because it told the story of high school. So I'm getting there. Don't be fucking rude. I'll throw bottle caps up your fucking nostril. You were courteous and let me say mine. Give him the same respect. speaker-1: Well, what's your ranking first? fucking dick you guys suck suck it's my show there you go make you mean me me this one I'm hosting this speaker-0: no use. ⁓ no, he's that bullshit before. was my show. We're just visitors. speaker-1: Me me me. Yeah, go ahead. Me me me. Go ahead. speaker-0: Ranking, I'll do ⁓ the way it came out. 1, 2, 3, speaker-1: Okay. It seems like all of our rankings would be very different. speaker-0: I mean the first one set the precedence and then what I liked about it is that each one followed suit from the next one. speaker-1: You feel like American Union is the worst out of all. speaker-0: It's not bad. It's not bad. Okay, like none of them are like Like one is not so much higher than the second one. Yeah, and then the third one and then the fourth Yeah, I'll give it I'll groove out, you know, they're all like right there Okay for you know an audio podcast everyone can see this right? You know, they're like I mean this literally like a fucking cut hair off. Okay from each one And each one has its own funny parts its own dull parts. Yeah, and for High school comedy movie it told a good fucking story, you know, and they showed growing up as a speaker-1: Bidden. You grew up with- speaker-0: As an awkward ⁓ Idiot as Jim would be you know And then you had Kevin who was the whiny bitch speaker-1: He was pointless. He was pointless in the whole series to tell you the truth. was not like his care. That's why in the third movie he was barely used. speaker-0: He was a whiny bitch about everything. Well, all right in high school, all right each each character you knew somebody like that. Mm-hmm. All right so Stiffler everyone knew somebody like that. Oh, yeah, you know a lot of them and Kevin's character everyone knew somebody like that who Who like friggin had this long-term girlfriend mm-hmm and like That's who they were gonna fucking stay with, know, but as soon as I left college or high school and went to college maybe and blah blah blah. And that's all that they fucking hold onto. Throughout, like after high school, going into college and afterwards. speaker-1: by Chris Klein. He was funny in election. Yeah. You remember election. I just thought of that. just remember. I just remembered that was a good movie. Elections, a good movie. That's a funny one. Go ahead. I'm sorry. speaker-0: ⁓ So take speaker-1: There we go. Take that. speaker-0: Right in your dickhole. Right up your nostril. speaker-1: What you, ass? speaker-0: All right, so that was all right, so So I'll give 33 It's Okay, like I said, I would give it a four and four if I didn't fucking rewatch it again. Mm-hmm, you know, but rewatching it You know, it's it obviously dropped and it ruined a lot of memories good memories From it. So yeah, I mean, it's not the best. It's not the worst. It's it's subpar. It's not so part but it's par speaker-1: Fine reviews for the first speaker-0: For the course on it of what they were for what they were trying to bring back to ⁓ To fucking this generation. Yeah speaker-1: Yeah, awesome All right. So for mine my ranking it seems like all of our rankings are different ⁓ You know how you picked American Pie 2 as being your your number one America reunion is my number one. So the American reunion is gonna be first American Pie 2 will be my number second or number two number three is gonna be American Pie America wedding is gonna be number four to me American wedding is the worst of the series, but I still enjoy a lot of parts of it. I think they overdid Stifler in that one, because I love Stifler in the first one and the second one. I loved it in American reunion, but American wedding, they just made him seem more dumb. And I, for some reason, the way that his, his mannerisms, the way that he was making the facial expressions, the way he talked, didn't even seem like what he talked in the other movies. just, was a completely different Stifler that I didn't care for, but there, there was still redeeming facts like, know, the fucking dancing. speaker-0: One who saved the day in every way. speaker-1: And but I always will love Stifler. Stifler is hilarious in these movies and everything else, but American Reunion is just... speaker-0: Go by the way, from a goddamn teacher and coach to a fucking speaker-1: Office like a temp in the office. speaker-0: I don't know. What was the hit life trajectory? He wasn't a teacher. He was just a coach. Then go to a temp. Yeah. speaker-1: with some. I don't know what is the temp exactly temporary. speaker-0: position? you are somebody that ⁓ a business reaches out to a temp agency to get temporary workers. So you're not a direct employee of the place that you're working. speaker-1: He's still getting paid like a full check and all that stuff. Yeah. speaker-0: But it's usually less than what that position would normally, you're getting paid less than what that position would normally get paid because they're paying the temp agency, who the temp agency is paying you. But it's this way you're bringing on somebody who's already been vetted, already supposedly has the skills because they're a temp agency. And you need them for a few weeks or a few months. And then the job's going away. So rather than bog down your... your HR and shit like that and fuck it, we'll have the temporary position come in. speaker-1: Yeah, no, I think I said I I didn't think about that about why he would become that because he was a coach at American Wedding and then he goes straight to that but I don't know it like I said America Wedding least my speaker-0: And I'm assuming he was the only reason I said teacher is because I'm assuming in a town, smaller town like that, the coaches are also teachers. Not all the time. Okay. Well, either our P.E. at least. Usually, ⁓ speaker-1: Probably. speaker-0: ⁓ Some of the coaches are on like the school staff and such others they're volunteers speaker-1: And then we think about like I said American unions being my number one but American pie being my third I say that because it's classic there's great scenes in it But of course, it's not like the best acting and stuff like that It's it's the first movie but American pie to did like boost it up a bit and make it better But American reunion I thought was a great fucking ending to the whole series alone for these characters at least until they made the direct-to-video ones So yeah, that would be my ranking right there. So for my pilot reviews you Said exactly what I was gonna say 3-3. That's that's basically where I was gonna go with ⁓ they're fun. It's a fun movie. I I really enjoy american pie and I like to watch it every now and then it doesn't Bore me or like that. There are better comedies out there i'm not gonna lie, but I do like these characters I enjoy these characters. This was nostalgic to me because I grew up with this in high school I remember when this came out came out the same year scary movie came out And I was thinking that this was the funniest movie of all time next to scary movie being one of the funniest movies of all time around that time so I remember also one of the Austin Powers, the spy who shagged me, I think came out that same year, I believe. Which was fucking hilarious, but... this movie brings up back a lot of memories watching this with my friends and everything else. I remember my bro, Dee, basically used to watch me and he used to watch this all the time and laugh at the fucking scenes and everything, but... Yeah, it's... These directors didn't really go anywhere. You know, they made some subpar movies and stuff like that. And the actors didn't really go anywhere. mean, most of them did. Some of them like Natasha Leon you were talking about, and then Sean William Scott in some movies, but they still did a good job. You can fuck off with You know who Kevin was, You know, earlier movie, he was in a baseball movie. Yeah. Yep. Funky, but loving. speaker-0: them have a handful of size roles. Uhhh, speaker-1: ⁓ I remember you remember that when he fucking hits the fucking doctor they see you that goes like fucking butt-loving yeah fucking classic is the Baseball movies, but no seriously this was a fun movie. I would would you all recommend American pie though? that's why I'm asking you because Because with you saying that this ruined it listening to this review wouldn't would you not recommend this movie? speaker-0: And honestly, no, not now. They said there's there's so many better examples and no matter what box you're trying to put this movie in, there are at least five to 10 better examples and every one the one. speaker-1: Really? Give me one that is better than this that is a crude sex comedy like American Pie. Who? From the 90s. No, I'm talking about now, like modern stuff. speaker-0: Ski school. Ski school. Which is from 91. ⁓ Euro trip. speaker-1: You think Euro trip is better than this? I would road trip is better than this road Road trip. Oh Yes, but road trip to be that's the foot. Yeah, well that is hilarious. All right speaker-0: This is fucking amazing. I know. Right. That's right there. Similar vein. Yeah. You know, of people growing up and shit like that. So similar vein as this, but told in a, in a better way. Absolutely. But you said modern. speaker-1: No, no, I'm going back to the past. Would you find that as a great- course! speaker-0: Yeah, Animal House, hell yeah! I don't think you can... ...top. speaker-1: or beat Revenge of the Nerds. speaker-0: I don't see that one as crude though. There's lot of crudeness. I don't see this. I know there is, but I don't really see it as tamed nowadays to us. porkies. speaker-1: Yes. Porkies I'd say is one of the most crudest. Like I said, when we go to your Porkies, I have a whole list of all the sex comedies that we can talk about, like Private School and stuff like that, which is a favorite of mine, Hollywood Nights. But no, seriously, this was fun talking about this. I'm glad you guys were able to join me for this episode. So that is the end of our episode for American Pie. speaker-0: sitting here talking by yourself. He does it all the time. speaker-1: Apparently I do. I'm proud of myself. You admitted it! speaker-0: Why am I the asshole? It's only bad when you answer your own questions. ⁓ he argues with himself. That's the bad part. speaker-1: I really do Anyways, that's the end of our episode for BAF. So we will see you guys next week for another great fun episode, which I believe is going to be. speaker-0: Is it gonna be? I don't know what our release dropping is going to be, so I don't want to say it. Okay. speaker-1: Actually, I know what's releasing next. Our anniversary. ⁓ yeah. Our anniversary episode of Aliens Redux. Redo. Hosted by Stu and me. That's gonna be a fun one. For the last time. For the last goddamn... We shall see. speaker-0: in time until the next time. The last time unless you plan on doing three and four. Last time we said was the last time. Yeah. We want to do it right this time. This is what we're doing now and dropping out a couple years later. We're going do it again. We're going to do right. speaker-1: Did we? Wow. That's why it's our anniversary. speaker-0: Until fucking three years from now when we're a totally different fucking show. Yeah, let's go ahead and do it. Let's revisit that. All right, let's do it that way now. Years ago we did it this way. speaker-1: Yeah, we're gonna have snow as a guest on that episode so that's gonna be a fun episode and It's gonna be a good time. I'm looking forward to we got two interesting drinks that we're gonna try out for that Yep, I hope speaker-0: Was your hall pass? Yeah. I assume it's according to Weaver's or Hall fast one. That's the way you fucking talk about that bitch all the time. speaker-1: I love Sigourney Weaver, but there's other actresses. Jennifer Conley. ⁓ yeah. Jennifer Conley. can. Yeah. Jennifer Conley is my hope. I've had a thing for her since I've for yeah. Anyways guys, that's the end of our show. We will see you all. Actually, I want to end the show with us starting the MILF Chan. speaker-0: So who's your hallmark? That's your hallmark? Fuck you! ⁓ I was gonna say to the next channel. the fuck it was. No, no we are not doing that at all. Then I retract the I'm gonna kick you in the nuts if you do. speaker-1: ⁓ for the next step? No! MILF. MILF. MILF. MILF. speaker-0: MILF! MILF! MILF! yourself.