tan: welcome back to another episode of The Brains, The Beauty and The Funny One. Kenz: Yay! It's been so long since we recorded. tan: It has. It's been a good week. Two weeks. Two weeks? I don't remember. Well... jens: Has it been a good two weeks? Kenz: Has it been a good two weeks? Questionable. It's very nice to have this nice weather to boost you back up, but it's also like, why is it this nice at the beginning of February when we're recording? Yeah, agreed. It's crazy. But yeah, was very nice to walk. I walked to pick up the girl today. Nice. Good choice. With the dogs. jens: It's like, it's very nice to have this nice weather to like boost you back up, but it's also like, why is it this nice at the beginning of February when we're recording today? Like it's crazy. But yeah, it was very nice to walk. walked to pick up the girls today. Yeah, with the dogs and the stroll or the wagon behind me. tan: How the heck do you pick up the girls with the dogs? jens: Today we're outside, like out in their little playground area. tan: ⁓ my- jens: Yeah, but I'll just put the wagon by the fence and I have the thing that goes around my waist. So I'll put Wes's leash through that and then I'll hook them to the fence and Baxter only barks a couple times while I run in and grab their stuff. Yeah, just been a weird lull at the end of January. Well yeah, what did we put it down to when we skipped last week, which is so unlike us because we've been so diligent. Kenz: Yeah, it's just been a weird, like end of January. Well yeah, what did we put it down to when we skipped last week, which is so unlike us because we've been so diligent. tan: Yeah, post vacation blues and seasonal depression. Yeah. Kenz: Kind of the... ⁓ Seasonal. Big, big time. Yeah, you guys are PMSing. I'm probably feeding off of that energy a bit. jens: Okay. Seasonal. Yeah. Big, big time. Yes, slash PMS. Yeah. You guys are PMSing. I'm probably feeding off of that energy a bit. tan: Hardcore. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. jens: I'm supposed to start mine in the next couple daysh. tan: Yeah. jens: We'll see. I feel like I was always the week before you guys, so. Kenz: Well. I feel like I thought it was the week before you guys. tan: were at the same time. Jensen was before. jens: Oh yeah, you guys were the week after me, Because I had my finish right before Mexico. you guys... Oh yeah, we were in Mexico. Anyways, TMI? No TMI. Not on this part. There's no such thing as too much information. Kenz: ⁓ yeah, we were in Mexico, Anyways, TMI. tan: I finished my last few days in Mexico. Kenz: Not on this podcast. There is no such thing as too much information. tan: not a secret. Women get their periods. Kenz: It's true. Not me anymore. Yay! ⁓ jens: It's true. Not me anymore. Yay! I have a Nixit cup and when I take it out I put it on the counter after I wash it and Gracie's like, Mom, is this your vagina cup? Your vagina cup? Sure is. ⁓ tan: Wow. Yeah. Cute. jens: ⁓ my gosh you guys, I've not failed as a parent but I was just playing music the other day on my phone and ⁓ Miss New Booty came on. So they were, no I know, but they were like jamming and then we were on the way to dance today and Gracie was just right PO'd and she's like, mommy I need booty booty rockin'. Kenz: not failed as a parent but we I was just playing music the other day on my phone and ⁓ Miss New Booty came on so? no I know but they were like jamming and then we were on the way to dance today and Gracie was just right p.o'd and she's like mommy I need booty booty rockin' No judgment here. It's not failed, it's apparent, but it's like, talking to a thick lady. Whatever. It was just a little, she was literally freaking out and like, like real tears falling. She asked for like, mommy booty booty rockin'. I want booty booty rockin', I put it on and she just like... It stops immediately and just... tan: Why is that failed as a parent? jens: It's not failed as a parent, but it's like talking about a thicc lady. tan: That's fine. jens: It was just hilarious. Like she was literally freaking out and like, real tears balling. She asked for it. Like mommy booty, booty rocking. I want booty, booty rocking. I put it on and she just like stops immediately and just starts to jam out. She'll, she'll keep me rolling. That's for, she does love some music. tan: Well, it was one of those. Kenz: That kid, It's okay. Music, music. Yeah. tan: ⁓ she's a, she's a kid. jens: She doesn't know what any of it means anyway, so it doesn't matter. No, she just knows booty. Yeah. tan: Even for like me now anyways, listening to the songs we used to dance to at the club and whatever, like listening to the words of it, I'm like, whoa. jens: Yeah. ⁓ yeah, and like, I don't know, I knew every word of, was it Shake That by like Nate Dogg and Eminem? Shake That, and that's for me. Every single word to that song, every part. And it came out when we were, well, when I was in like, I think grade eight or nine. Yeah. Maybe even grade seven. Not appropriate. ⁓ no, but it was still fun to dance at a good beat. Kenz: Well, yeah, and like I don't know I knew every word of was it shake that by like Nate dog and Eminem Yeah, that's on I knew every single word to that song Every part and it came out when we were well when I was in like I think grade eight or nine Maybe even grade seven Not appropriate But whatever kenz: Okay. No I know. are getting through it this time! And ⁓ They say every family has one. But with three sisters, three personalities, and lot of opinions, it's a little harder to tell who's who. I'm Kenzie, the blatantly obvious eldest daughter. I'm Jensen, a recovering people-pleasing middle daughter. And I'm Tannis, the typical youngest daughter. tan: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ kenz: positively flawless. This is the Brains, the Beauty and the Funny One podcast, our unfiltered sister chat about the ups and downs of life, neurodivergence, trends, pop culture, our interests and hobbies, love and family and much more or less. Let's see where the conversation takes us. tan: No. Kenz: Who cares? I didn't know what any of it meant. Yeah, I knew every word, but I didn't know what it meant. You know? If I do know. Yeah. know, today I actually, socially it was looking through TikToks because I had 97 notifications. Well, was while I was waiting on hold for TELUS. tan: It is fun to dance to at a good beat. jens: Who cares? I didn't know what any of it meant. I did have a good view. I didn't know what it meant. Yes. Yes, I do know. Speaking of socialize today, actually social media was looking through TikTok because I had 97 notifications while I was while I was waiting on hold for TELUS. tan: I haven't opened that app. kenz: beauty and funny? we can't have it all. Thanks for listening to this episode. If you would like to help support our podcast, please share it with others, post about it on social media. Kenz: I was looking through my tip. jens: I was looking through my TikToks and I don't think you saw like 30 minutes, but I was on the phone with Tellus for like an hour and 30 minutes with breaks in between. ⁓ the one I don't think you sent to me, but it was just under my like following and it was the unfaithful and she was singing the lyrics, but like Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihanna. And she's like, what? tan: How long did that take you? kenz: or leave a rating and review anywhere you listen to your podcasts. catch all the latest from us, please give us a follow on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube @BrainsBeautyFunnyOne, or email us at thebbfpodcast@gmail.com. Thanks again, and we'll see you next time. Kenz: And I don't think you sent it to me, but it was just under my following and it was the unfaithful and she was singing the lyrics with like Rihanna. Rihanna? And she's like, what? It's so funny. Yeah. jens: It's so funny. Yeah. Any of those songs that you go back and listen to, like, when you go back and listen to Big Girls Don't Cry by Fergie, it is like devastating. Yes. But yeah, it's a good song, but yeah, it was just like a weird... That music video is devastating. haven't seen that music video since it probably came up. Yeah. Fair enough. Kenz: Any of those songs that you go back and listen to, like even if you go back and listen to Big Girls Don't Cry by Fergie, it is like devastating. But yeah, it's a good song, but yeah, it was just like a weird... That music video is devastating. Yeah. Haven't seen that music video since it probably came out. tan: Yeah. Right? Yeah. I feel like because nowadays it's more like lyrical music, like storytelling, so you listen to the words. jens: Yeah, like people are really listening to the words. Yeah. Yes and no. Kenz: Yeah, like people are... tan: Whereas like when we were growing up, it was about the beat. Kenz: Yes and no. jens: Yes and no, I agree with you. Some things are definitely more miracle or more poetry to music, of, just depending on what genre you're listening to. then there's like, I'm gonna sound so old when I say this, then like terrible club beats that are- Yeah, like when we were in Mexico at the freaking disco. Kenz: Yes and no, I agree with you. Some things are definitely more lyrical or more poetry to music, of, just depending on what genre you're listening to. then there's the... I'm going to sound so old when I say this, but then the terrible club beats that are... ⁓ Yeah, the EDM festival. It's just constant noise. tan: go. So, I'm going you, and then we'll on the jens: Like it's just constant noise. The EDM festival wasn't bad, it was the music in the disco. Yeah, you're right, actually. The EDM festival at least it had some... What was live DJs, so they were feeling with the crowd too, right? Whereas like the disco is like a club and it's just like, let's play this douche douche douche douche the whole night. And it's in something, whereas like the EDM festival was outside, so it wasn't... Kenz: Yeah, you're right actually. the EDM festival at least it had some semblance. Yeah Yeah, and it wasn't even like good Yeah, True, but yeah jens: Ricochet. tan: You're showing your age. Kenz: I know. I know. Because I was like, limited up at my wedding and that was seven years ago in the disco and granted, I was way drunker at my wedding. Yeah. More drunk. Sorry. Okay, grammar please. jens: I know. I Because I was living it up at my wedding and that was seven years ago in the disco and granted I was way drunker at my wedding than I was this pastime. More drunk. Sorry. Take grammar please. And I was just like, yeah I'm probably fine. I'll dance a couple songs and I'm good. tan: more. There you go. Kenz: and I was just like, yeah. Well, I know and it sucked because it was like the first like hour we were in there. It was just like the same beat. There was no change in like rhythm and then it took them so long to change it into even anything that was recognizable that you could scream sing to, which is part of the fun of being in a club if you know what I mean. tan: Yeah. jens: sucked because it was like the first like hour we were in there it was just like this same sheet. Yeah, shit. There no change in like rhythm and then it took them so long to change it into even anything that was recognizable that you could scream sing to which is part of the fun of being in a club if you know what I mean. And also also they should just start it earlier so I can tan: yet. I feel that. Kenz: Yeah. jens: have fun and be in bed by 10 o'clock. I love it. Started at 830. Kenz: Yeah, like why 11? Why 11? Started at 830. jens: I just searched it while we braked there for a second. Mama Mia trivia, since we've been talking so much about Grace and Mama Mia. Kenz: I just searched it while we braked there for a second. ⁓ Mamma Mia trivia! Ooh! been talking so much about Grace and Mamma Mia. tan: ⁓ gosh. Hopefully it's easy questions. jens: Okay, first of all, when's the last time you watched Mamma Mia? I haven't watched in a while. Kenz: Okay, first of all... When's the last time you watched Mamma Mia? tan: I watched Mama Mitch, the second one, like not that long ago, but I haven't watched the first one lately. jens: Here we go again. Kenz: Yeah, me either. I haven't seen them either run in a bit. jens: Yeah, me either. Me neither. tan: But the second one I think was on Prime. And the first one isn't on anything, I don't think. Kenz: Mmm. jens: Is it? I think I saw it on something the other day. Oh look, I think it's on Netflix. tan: It's on something, the second one, but not the first one. jens: Okay, we'll start out with some fun facts about Mamma Mia. Abba didn't want the songs changed at all. No remixing, no lyric tweets. What you hear is pure Abba. Make sense. Meryl Streep sang live on set. No lip sync shortcuts. She trained for months and still claims the winner takes it all nearly broke her emotionally. Kenz: Make sense. That's a beautiful one though. 100%, yeah. tan: Yeah. you Aww. jens: That, that, yeah, cause that, yeah, that one was like soul crushing. tan: I could feel that emotion, jens: Oh, Pierce Brosnan knew he wasn't a strong singer and did the movie anyway because his kids begged him to. Iconic dad move. Pierce Brosnan is the one she ends up. 007. The one she ends up with. Sorry for the spoiler. Kenz: was beautiful. Brosnan knew he wasn't a strong singer and did the movie anyway because his kids begged him to. Iconic dad move. Pierce Brosnan was the one she ends up. 007. The one she ends up with, yeah. Sorry for the spoiler. tan: Who's? Who's Pierce Frost? ⁓ yeah, Yeah, yeah. I am terrible with names, but once I see them, I'm like, ⁓ okay. Yeah. Kenz: of actors. Perfect. Write ⁓ those down we to go. Perfect. Write those down so we know where to go. ⁓ jens: ⁓ of actors. Yeah, once you hit their face. ⁓ The Greek island isn't real. Calo Cary was filmed mostly on Scopelos and Skiathos. Plus some studio work in London. Perfect. Write those down. S-K-O-P-E-L-O-S and tan: Thank jens: S-K-I-A-T-H-O-S. ⁓ Kenz: Okay, hot to go I went H o t t o g Yes, I already have the pink pony club emote tan: and a TTIC. ⁓ jens: ⁓ Did you see that chaperone is part of that drop on fortnight Of course you do Good god ⁓ Abba members were hands-off at first Jordan and Benny didn't even attend early rehearsals then later became huge supporters Kenz: Jorn and Benny didn't even attend early rehearsals, then later became huge supporters. tan: Hmm. Kenz: mean, You're like, ⁓ these people are making a movie about our music. ⁓ jens: People are making a movie about our music. Yeah, yikes. But then the way it came together is like, shite, this is going to be good. That's Meryl Streep and Pierce Brosnan. Like, let's do this. Literally. Dancing Queen was Meryl Streep's favorite number to film, especially jumping off the pier with the dynamos. ⁓ Kenz: ⁓ my god, there's Meryl Streep and Pierce Brosnan. Like, let's do this. tan: Of course. Classic. Kenz: ⁓ iconic. Love ⁓ it. jens: Okay, ready for some trivia? tan: We'll see if I am. Kenz: Which Abba song plays during the end credits of the first movie? jens: Which ABBA song plays during the end credits of the first movie? tan: Mama Mia. ⁓ What? Kenz: Super trooper lights are gonna find me. No? Waterloo! ⁓ Waterloo. jens: No. tan: Isn't it Mamma Mia? ⁓ yeah, well that happened at the end of the second too. jens: I think I wanted to Kenz: Is it? jens: It does say Mamma Mia or Dancing Queen it says, the extended party on version, but it's Waterloo. I'm 99 % freaking chat GPT. Do they do Super Trooper? They do Super Trooper when they're singing to the bride's bride and the bachelorette party. Kenz: We'll have to check that because do they do super trooper? tan: No, I'm pretty sure it's Mama Mia. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Mamma Mia though, first. Kenz: That's it. jens: Yeah, probably. No. OK, let me look. tan: Yeah, because I think Waterloo is the second one. Kenz: Yeah, like during the credits roll. In all of their suits. Like their disco suits. Yeah. It's water, I'm sure it is. jens: Yeah, like during the credits. Like when they're dancing with everyone. In all of their suits. they're... Yeah, that I want to do for Halloween. Yeah. It's water, I'm sure. tan: Yeah. Yeah. The first or the second? jens: The first. The first movie. Like during the credit roll. Dancing Queen and Waterloo. Yeah, yeah, figured. But then when did they do Super Trooper? When? The Bachelor at the Party. yes, okay. Right, right, right, right, right. Just told you that. ⁓ what? ⁓ we just did this. What are Donna's old bandmates called? Kenz: The first movie. Like during the credit roll. Dancing Queen and Waterloo. Yeah, yeah, figured. But then when did they do Super Trooper? When? ⁓ the dynamos, yes, okay. Right, right, right, right, right. tan: ⁓ okay. At the Bachelorette! Kenz: What are Donna's old bands? tan: The dynamos. jens: Which actor appears in both Mamma Mia movies and is an actual pop star outside of the films? I think she's in both. She's in the last, the second one. What actual pop star is in Mamma Mia? Yes. True or false? Abba appears on screen in the movie. tan: What's that? Share. Kenz: The second one. Sure. ⁓ tan: False, true, I don't know. False, I didn't think so, but I wasn't sure. Maybe like the background somewhere. Yeah. jens: You are correct- ⁓ you just said both. FALSE! ⁓ finish the lyric game one sec Kenz: Like a cameo? tan: ⁓ gosh, I'm terrible at this too. Kenz: It'll probably be wrong if it's chat GBT. jens: Yeah, well, we're gonna try. Okay. You are the dancing queen, young and sweet. tan: Youngest me only 17. Kenz: young and sweet Do do do do do do. tan: Hahaha Kenz: you jens: you tan: I don't think people are here to hear us sing, so... jens: So good. Kenz: Okay. ⁓ jens: I've been cheated by you since I don't know when tan: So I've made up my mind this must come to an end. Kenz: Come to jens: Do do do do do. ⁓ still going. ⁓ tan: Look at me now! Kenz: Don't go! tan: You jens: Alright, one more thing, let me see if it'll pop up. You can dance, you can jive tan: You can just have in the time of your life. Whoa, see that girl. Watch that scene. Digging the dancing queen. Isn't it digging the dancing queen? Or is it singing? Kenz: Having the Watch that scene singing the dancing queen. jens: Singing the dancing queen. Alright, good job guys. Yeah, dig... Singing. Singing? Singing. You can dance. I don't think it's digging. I think it's singing. Kenz: Singing? Seeing? I don't think it's digging. I think it's singing. tan: I thought it was digging. We got a fact check that I actually am curious jens: See that girl, watch that scene. I think I always said diggin'. Let me look. Yeah, it must be diggin'. Like, I'm diggin' your groove, girl. From the 70s? Yeah, that's perfect. tan: Diggin' the dancin' queen. Kenz: Yeah, I be digging. I'm digging your groove, girl. From the 70s? tan: I almost spit out my drink. I'm taking your moves, girl. jens: ⁓ Kenz: I'm you, girl. jens: ⁓ throwback AZ lyrics dot com. ⁓ my gosh. I didn't know that still website. Yeah, dig in the dancing queen. Yeah. I'm digging it girlfriend. tan: Oops. Kenz: ⁓ my gosh, I didn't know that was still the website. ⁓ wow, okay. I always thought it was singing. tan: Digging? I took a drink and you said that to Kenzie so seriously. jens: ⁓ my god. ⁓ Kenz: ⁓ god. tan: That would have been a funny YouTube clip. Kenz: all over your camera. ⁓ jens: your camera. tan: Yeah, technical difficulties. jens: While it's on there, we'll cut it out. Spray it goes goes in that screen. Please stand by. Jensen's digging something over there. Kenz: Tannis ⁓ man. With these microphones. Just wait till you get yours Tannis, it'll change your whole life. jens: Good trivia guys, good finishing the lyrics. I feel like we're professional singers now with these microphones. Just wait till you get- YAH tan: Getting to hold the mic or what? Kenz: You don't even have to hold it. Jensen's is right in front of her. I just don't have a table. She's hogging the whole table. jens: Just talking to it. I am not. just don't have a table, she's hogging all the Hello, it's me. tan: Okay, we're not actually gonna be singers. Kenz: No. Unfortunately, I don't have that talent. jens: Just kidding. No, same. I can pretend though. Yeah. I keep telling people, like, if I could sing, like actually sing really well, I would never stop. I would sing all day long. Yeah. I can sing! tan: Same. We've tried. Kenz: Yeah, I keep telling people I'm like if I could sing like actually sing really well, I would never stop I would sing all day long In public everywhere Yeah, I would never stop No jens: Give it a whirl, girl. Do you know where that's from? Come on, you guys. No diggity. tan: Let's hear it. I'm diggin' you, girl. Kenz: No. No diggity. 100 % nonsense, jens: No diggity. Oh my God. Just 24 minutes of complete nonsense. love it. 100 % nonsense. Yeah. Yes. I was just saying to Kenzie yesterday that we should just catch up tan: This is a- jens: Tan, tell us about your last couple weeks. tan: Well, they've just been, I don't know, figuring out my emotions. So it's been fun with the. jens: What have you, what have you figured? Kenz: ⁓ What you figured? tan: that I need more sunshine. jens: You need to pop those vitamin D pills? Yeah. tan: Like actually though. I just think because like in Mexico we were overloaded with the sunshine like from what seven to seven pretty much seven to six the whole day and then you come back here and it's dark till like 8 30 almost and then dark at four o'clock in the afternoon. Kenz: Mm-hmm. Yeah, pretty much, yeah. In the morning, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so nice that it's like light until almost six now. Like 5.5. It just like, just makes you feel so much better to come home and have some daylight left. Yeah, it is tough. jens: in morning. Yeah, it's so nice that it's light until almost 6 now or like 545. It just makes your day so much better to come home and have some daylight left. Yeah, it is tough. tan: Yeah. There was like a meme and it was like 30 days till the sun starts setting at 7 p.m. Kenz: Nice. jens: I'm so excited. tan: And I got very excited for that, if that's true. Kenz: Yeah, especially when it's warm out, because like then... jens: Yeah, especially when it's warm out because like then where I like I'm outside with the girls in the back just enjoying the sun. tan: Yeah, it definitely like the weather definitely plays a role on your health though. jens: The sun. ⁓ yeah. Definitely. Kenz: ⁓ yeah. Definitely. tan: especially like as we get closer to the time of the month, it's like, it's huge. jens: Ahem. Yeah. Kenz: Mm-hmm. tan: which must be nice for some people to not have to deal with that anymore, but... Kenz: I mean, I've only had a month, really. Yep, just four weeks. jens: I mean, I've only had a month, really. Yeah, are you just a month there? No, not even. Yep, just four weeks. Holy shit. Yeah. tan: Yes, for those that don't know, Kenz: ⁓ jens: Kenzie. tan: Got her uterus out. Kenz: I did. She birthed her uterus, actually. That is true. Yes, I birthed my uterus. jens: She birthed her uterus, actually. That is true. Yes, I birthed my uterus. tan: and how was that experience for yourself? Kenz: Well, it was amazing. Like, I think I'm one of the lucky ones who had very little pain. jens: Well, it was amazing. I think I'm one of the lucky ones who had very little pain. Afterwards? Yeah, like healing. Healing pain. Some people say it's absolutely miserable for two weeks and some people say that it's okay after a week. And I was okay after waking up from surgery. Kenz: Yeah, like healing. Healing pain. Some people say it's absolutely miserable for two weeks and some people say that it's okay after a week and I was okay after waking up from surgery. tan: Yeah. But I feel like the pain you were in before like didn't even throw the torch next to this. jens: Was astronomically yeah I Don't know how I got through the day if I'm honest because it was like chronic Like at least five six seven out of ten pain every single day Crazy I don't know Kenz: Yes. Yeah, like I don't know how I got through the day, if I'm honest, because it was like chronic, like at least five, six, seven out of ten pain every single day. So... I don't know. tan: Because you are a warrior. Kenz: Yeah, well, and I've been living. Yeah, and and like I struggle with migraines. And so like that's on top of that migraine pain that I get sometimes like I don't always have migraines, right? So but I always have had pelvic pain with my like menstrual cycle. But most of the time, the pelvic pain was like always there. And it never really went away. tan: That is how you got through the day. jens: Yeah, well and I've been living... You're a strong ass woman. And like I struggle with migraines and so like that's on top of that migraine pain that I get sometimes. Like I don't always have migraines, right? So but I always have had pelvic pain with my like menstrual cycle but most of the time the pelvic pain was like always there and it never really went away. And then I started to get this pain on the left side of my Kind of body more prominent pain. Yeah, like more like intense like it just wouldn't go away. Nothing we did would Touch it pain. Yeah at all. Um, I woke up from surgery Kenz: And then I started to get this pain on the left side of my kind of body. Yeah, like more like intense, like it just wouldn't go away. Nothing we did would like alleviate pain at all. ⁓ I woke up from surgery. tan: So, had you thought... Do you Kenz: pain free. No pain. I was like, where am I? Am I in line? What's going on right now? And of course, when you wake up from surgery, the nurses are fantastic. And they're like, how's your pain? How's your pain? What can we give you? you know, they're very like, right there, right on top of it to like, try to help you. tan: That's amazing. Yeah. This is what it's like. jens: pain free. No pain. Yeah other than surgical pain. Yeah. I was like where am I? Am I alive? What's going on right now? And of course when you wake up from surgery the nurses are fantastic and they're like how's your pain? How's your pain? What can we give you? you know they're very like right there right on top of it to like try to help you. Kenz: manage your pain right off the hop right? I was like I think I'm okay. Like I had a lot of like pressure straight down the middle. jens: manager pain right off the hop, right? I was like, I think I'm okay. Like I had a lot of like pressure straight down the middle. you birth your uterus. But I didn't understand. Yeah. And I didn't understand like, I knew what the process was that they were going in a few incisions in my abdomen. And then tan: Yeah. Yeah, you had a big wound in there now. Kenz: But I didn't understand. Yeah, and I didn't understand, like, I knew what the process was that they were going in a few incisions in my abdomen, and then the uterus was coming out my vaginal canal. But I didn't understand, like, the fact that there would be so much, like, pressure after. tan: Yeah. ⁓ yeah. jens: the uterus was coming out my vaginal canal. But I didn't understand like the fact that there would be so much like pressure after. ⁓ So that was like my biggest thing. But I said to the nurse, like, I have a lot of pressure, but I don't think that any pain reliever is going to help with that. Yeah, just going to be time. And she's like, yeah, you're probably right. So they ended up giving me Tylenol and Advil. Kenz: So that was like my biggest thing. But I said to the nurse, I'm like, I have a lot of pressure, but I don't think that any pain reliever is going to help with that. And she's like, yeah, you're probably right. So they ended up giving me Tylenol and Advil in recovery. Just to take the edge off. jens: In recovery. Jesus Christ. Just to take the edge off. That's crazy. And ⁓ usually anesthesia makes me super, super sick. But during my pack appointments, I made it very clear that I get like very vomiting and nauseous with anesthesia generally. And they tan: Yeah. That's awesome. Kenz: And usually anesthesia makes me super, super sick, but during my pack appointments, I made it very clear that I get like very vomiting and nauseous with anesthesia generally. And they took that very seriously and they came up with another plan. And so then when I went in for pre-op, jens: Took that very seriously and they came up with another plan. And so then when I went in For pre-op she was like, okay, here's this giant pill. It was seriously like this big Take this it's an anti-nausea pill and Like it was like an hour before my surgery so she's like take it so it's on board and then when I got to the OR tan: That's all good. Kenz: she was like, okay, here's this giant pill. It was seriously like this big. Take this. It's an anti-nausea pill. And, ⁓ like it was like an hour before my surgery. So she's like, take it so it's on board. And then when I got to the OR, they said that they were using a different kind of anesthesia that jens: They said that they were using a different kind of anesthesia that has less side effects typically like less nausea vomiting side effects and they put on a whole, I don't know if this is standard or not, but they put on a whole like tracking like pads. ⁓ yeah yeah. Over my head. Yeah. And down my arms, both my arms. Kenz: has less side effects typically like less ⁓ nausea vomiting side effects and they put on a whole i don't know if this is standard or not but they put on a whole like tracking like pads all over my head and down my arms both my arms and like the ivy and whatever tan: Yeah. Wow. Thank jens: and like the IV and whatever and so I was like well it's this far and she was like so we can monitor where you are in conscience con-cauch- consciousness consciousness so yeah so they can monitor exactly where you are kind of that's wild yeah that's really cool though because they said the deeper that you go the more Kenz: And so I was like, well, it says Florida and she was like, so we can monitor where you are in conscience, con, cos consciousness, cos what's the word consciousness. So yeah, so she they can monitor exactly where you are kind of in here. Yeah, so because they said the deeper that you go. ⁓ tan: That's really cool. Kenz: the more complications could arise and also the more like nauseous you can be waking up. jens: Locations could arise and also the more like nauseous you can be So they were super cautious with me yeah and my room Was my or was oh yeah fully general anesthetic Yeah, like tube down the throat fully out my or was full of only women except for tan: ⁓ yeah. That makes sense. Kenz: So they were super cautious with me. Yeah. And my room was my OR was, ⁓ yeah, fully general anesthetic. Yeah, like tube down the throat, fully out. My OR was full of only women except for the RT, so the ⁓ respiratory therapist and my surgeon. But his... tan: So... ⁓ Were you put to sleep? Yeah. you ⁓ yeah. Kenz: student what are they called? and all of the anesthesia team were all women and all the nurses were all women it was like really cool just to jens: the RT so the ⁓ respiratory therapist and my surgeon but his ⁓ student what are they called resident and all of the anesthesia team were all women and all the nurses were all women it was like really cool just to I'm a motherfucking woman yeah exactly it was awesome and the one OR nurse she Kenz: Exactly. Yeah, exactly. It was awesome. And the one OR nurse, she literally had my hand or my shoulder from the moment we walked into the OR. Yeah, so she like helped me get up on the table. And then she like, yeah, had my hand or held my shoulder the whole time they were getting my IV in the other arm and all of the things set up. And she was just like, jens: literally had my hand or my shoulder from the moment we walked into the OR. ⁓ she like grounded you almost, Yeah. Yeah. So she like helped me get up on the table and then she like yeah had my hand or held my shoulder the whole time they were getting my IV in the other arm and all of the things set up and she was just like talking so calmly and everything and she was like it's gonna be okay and Kenz: talking so calmly and everything and she was like, it's gonna be okay and like talking to me about Mexico and this and that and whatever. yeah, she was just so fantastic and she did not let me go. tan: Some healthcare professionals are like amazing. jens: Like talking to me about Mexico and this and that and whatever. yeah, she was just so fantastic and she did not let me go. That's so sweet. I'm like gonna tear up. Really good. They're really good. Really fantastic team. That's amazing. My pre-op nurse was hilarious and really good at her job. And then my recovery nurses in the recovery Kenz: Yeah, I had a really really fantastic team my pre-op nurse was hilarious and Really good at her job and then my recovery nurses in the recovery room because you go to recovery first like immediately after surgery until you wake up for manesthesia and that nurse was from Lethbridge so we talked about Lethbridge and then when I got back to the tan: That's awesome. yeah. wow. jens: recovery room because you go to recovery first like immediately after surgery until you wake up from anesthesia. And that nurse was from Lethbridge. ⁓ no way. So we talked about Lethbridge. Sick. And then when I got back to the day surge unit then the nurses there were awesome too. Good. Yeah it was just like a really really fantastic experience and when I got home I really had to like remind myself Kenz: they surge unit than the nurses there were awesome too. So yeah, it was just like a really, really fantastic experience. And when I got home, I really had to like, remind myself that I'd had surgery like a major surgery and I needed to take it easy. Yeah. jens: that I had surgery, like a major surgery, and I needed to take it easy. What? You did have to do that? Yeah. Fuck. This girl was trying to go walk around Costco four days post surgery. I was like, sit your goddamn ass down. I was just like, I was feeling good. Like, this is the best I've felt in the last like... Kenz: day post surgery. I was like, sit your goddamn ass down. It's just like, I was feeling good. Like, this is the best I've felt in the last like, 10 years. jens: Yes, but you still have a wound inside of your abdomen. And at the top of my vagina. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, overall, experience. I'd recommend. If you're in pain. Even if you're not in pain and you're done having kids or don't want have kids, push. That is my biggest advice. Advocate for yourself. Well, with that, let's go back to the very start. Kenz: And at the top of my vagina. But yeah, no overall great experience highly recommend Even if you're not in pain and you're done having kids or don't want to have kids push that is my biggest advice tan: Yes. Yeah. Kenz: Very start. jens: of all this. Well, I've always known I didn't want kids. So from a very young age, I got put on birth control right away and then I didn't want to be on birth control anymore. So then they, well then I got an ID. Yeah, because that's like the thing that they do is like, ⁓ let's just do birth control. You have acne, have some birth control. Yeah. Like go get bent. Yeah, it's actually terrible for you. And that's why all of us. tan: that. Kenz: Well, I've always known I didn't want kids. So from a very young age, like I got put on birth control right away and then I didn't want to be on birth control anymore. So then they, well, then I got an ID and I... Yeah. Yeah, it's actually terrible for you. That's why all of us have, well not me, but so many women have autoimmune disorders. They're finding it linked. tan: Yeah. Yeah. jens: have, well not me, but so many women have autoimmune I talked to my doctor and I was like, I have so much pain with my periods and before and after and all of the above and he's like, let's put you on birth control. I like, no. My husband is snipped. We have the birth control. I don't want to go on hormones or hormone suppressants. Kenz: That's not a fucking answer. Oh, I'm a fucking psychopath when I'm on. Yeah. tan: Yeah, same right now. Yeah. Yeah, same. jens: I don't want it. Because it fudges with my body no matter what form I've taken because I've pretty well done them all. ⁓ tan: Yeah. Kenz: Yeah. Completely different person when I'm on birth control or when I'm not on birth control. Like, completely. So. jens: Yes, absolutely. tan: Yeah, same. I have a very low iron level and the answer is go on birth control right now. And I was like, no, I do not want to go on birth control. I mean, sorry. jens: Yeah, because it has, because you can do an iron pill the week. Kenz: Like how about you just refer me to get my uterus taken out and then that way I wouldn't bleed every fucking month and lose half my blood count. What a great plan! jens: Like how about you just refer me to get my uterus taken out and then that way I wouldn't bleed every fucking month and lose half of my blood count. Legit. What a great plan! tan: Yeah, because us Forbes girls, we bleed. jens: We like, we like for days and weeks sometimes. Literally on my medical chart, it says abnormal uterine bleeding. Kenz: We bleed. Like literally on my medical chart it says abnormal uterine bleeding. tan: Yeah. Yeah. Kenz: So I just kept and pushing and pushing and pushing my doctor to refer me to, ⁓ cause ⁓ I've always had that history of the pelvic pain and the weird periods and the... tan: Wow. jens: So I just kept pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing my doctor refer me to, ⁓ well, because I've always had that history of the pelvic pain ⁓ and the weird periods and tan: Okay. jens: Yeah, just all the kind of all the things I've had ovarian cysts and stuff too. But yeah, I just kept pushing and saying I want you to refer me to a gynecologist so that I can start the process to get my uterus taken out because I don't want kids and it's causing me pain. I know it is. And you were never actually diagnosed with endo, right? No. And that's the interesting thing is that Kenz: Yeah, like just all the kind of all the things I've had ovarian cysts and stuff too. but yeah, I just kept pushing and saying, I want you to refer me to a gynecologist so that I can start the process to get my uterus taken out because I don't want kids and it's causing me pain. I know it is. tan: Yeah. Yeah. Kenz: No, and that's the interesting thing is that during this surgery, this doctor that I saw is actually an endometriosis specialist. And the doctor that I saw that took out my tubes a couple of years ago, he did some exploratory for endo but didn't see any. So then that was kind of the end of that. This doctor, he did some exploratory and he's like, there was some kind of odd looking jens: During this surgery, this doctor that I saw is actually an endometriosis specialist. And the doctor that I saw that took out my tubes a couple of years ago, he did some exploratory for endo but didn't see any. So then that was kind of the end of that. This doctor, he did some exploratory and he's like, there was some kind of odd looking sites and whatever. Yeah. So he took. Kenz: sites and whatever. So he took samples and whatever and sent it to the lab. It all came back endometriosis. And so he said, like, he's like, I talked to him the day of my surgery. I haven't talked to him about my path results or anything yet. But when I talked to him the night of my surgery, he said, it doesn't look like typical endo, but I think it is. jens: like samples and whatever and sent it to the lab. It all came back endometriosis. And so he said, like, he's like, I, like, I talked to him the day of my surgery. I haven't talked to him about my path results or anything yet, but when I talked to him the night of my surgery, he said, it doesn't look like typical endo, but I think it is. So I'm really excited for my followup with him. Yeah. Well, is that at six weeks or just before? tan: Wow. Okay. Kenz: So I'm really excited for my follow-up with him. be just after just because of how it worked out, but, but yeah, so ⁓ really excited to talk to him about all the things. But then I also got diagnosed with adenomyosis, which is where the endometrial tissue grows into the uterine wall. jens: It'll be just after, just before you go back. But yeah, so I'm really excited to talk to him about all the things. But then I also got diagnosed with adenomyosis. Right. Which is where the endometrial tissue grows into the uterine wall. Right. So it makes your uterus really big, really bulky. Kenz: So it makes your uterus really big, really bulky, super painful. jens: I was just gonna say that's why there's so much pain as we're talking about this my uterus is like punching me through. So I'm like I just feel so vindicated. Vindication! Yes, like I'm so excited like when I got my passport I was reading through it and I was almost in tears. Yeah. I was so excited. Kenz: Yeah. So I'm like, I just feel so. tan: Yeah. Yeah. Kenz: Vindication. Vindication. Yes. Like I am so excited. Like when I got my path report, I was reading through it and I was almost in tears. Like I was so excited. jens: Like you knew you weren't crazy, but this is just like I was not crazy at all. Kenz: It's just, yeah, exactly. tan: But also let our listeners know how long you've been fighting for this. Kenz: Yeah, this journey started 15 years ago. So I know that seems like a long time because I'm only 33. tan: Yeah. Kenz: but I've known that I didn't want kids. jens: but I know that I didn't want kids. Well, and you've been in pain. My whole life. Yeah. And I never stopped pushing every time I went to the doctor. didn't matter what I went to the doctor for. I said, by the way, I still want my uterus taken out every single time. Yeah. Just to make it very clear how long I pushed for this. Yeah. tan: her whole life. Yeah. Kenz: my whole life, yeah. And I never stopped pushing. Every time I went to the doctor, didn't matter what I went to the doctor for, I said, by the way, I still want my uterus taken out. Every single time. just to make it very clear how long I pushed for this. And then finally I got a referral. Well, when my pelvic pain was really bad, my doctor referred me to doctor in Lethbridge. jens: And then finally, I got a referral. when my pelvic pain was really bad, she, my doctor referred me to doctor in Lethbridge. And that's the one that did the kind of exploratory end of it. Didn't really see anything. We did the tubes at that time. So then I was okay for not having baby pregnancy or, ⁓ Kenz: And that's the one that did the kind of exploratory endo and didn't really see anything. He did take out my tubes at that time. So then I was okay for not having a pregnancy or ⁓ having to go back on birth control or anything. So that was good. And I was satisfied for a while, but then my pain got worse and whatever continued. Yeah, again. So then I went back to my doctor, like literally probably tan: Yeah. jens: having to go back on birth control or anything. So that was good. And I was satisfied for a while, but then my pain got worse and continued. Continued. Yeah. Again. So then I went back to my doctor, like literally probably two months after my surgery and I said, okay, I my uterus out now. Like I just had my tubes taken out and I was like, okay, I my uterus out now. And she was like, you just had your tubes out. like, I know, I'm done. Kenz: two months after my surgery and I said, okay, I want my uterus out now. Like I just had my tubes taken out and I was like, okay, I want my uterus out now. And she was like, you just had your tubes out. I'm like, I know, but I'm done. I don't want this. I know it's causing me pain. It's just one of those things that it's like, I knew from the very marrow of my being that I, like I knew it. jens: I don't want this. I know it's causing me pain. Yeah. It's just one of those things that it's like, I knew from the very marrow of my being that I knew it. Well, clearly. So then she referred me to a doctor in Calgary because at that time in Lethbridge, was like a health crisis. There was no OBs. tan: Yeah. Okay. Kenz: Yeah. So then she referred me to a doctor in Calgary because at that time in Lethbridge it was like a health crisis that there was no OBs. And so I got referred probably in 2022, no, 23 to the doctor in Calgary. went and saw the first doctor in Calgary and she was lovely. And she took me seriously. She diagnosed me with PMDD and PCOS and likely endo. jens: And so thank God because I got referred probably in 2022, no, 23. So the doctor in Calgary three years ago. Yeah, I saw the first doctor in Calgary and she was lovely and she took me seriously. She diagnosed me with PMDD and PCOS. PMDD is the depression one, right? PMDD is premenstrual dysphoria. Yeah. It's like super depressive and like dysphoric. Like you're completely disconnected from yourself. Oh god. It's So she diagnosed those two things for sure and then likely endo because she's like it just sounds like endo. Right. Kenz: PMDD is premenstrual dysphoria. Yeah. It was like super depressive and dysphoric. You're completely disconnected from yourself. tan: Like the week before. Yeah. Kenz: so she diagnosed me with those two things for sure. And then likely endo cause she's like, it just sounds like endo. ⁓ did some ultrasounds, blah, blah, for her. And then she called me and we were talking about everything and she's like, okay, so you want your uterus taken out? She's like, I do legally have to go over the options with you of birth control, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I know I want my uterus out, please. So then she, because of, yeah. tan: Quit asking me so many questions. jens: did some ultrasounds blah blah blah for her and then she called me and we were talking about everything and she's like okay so you want your uterus taken out she's like I do legally have to go over the options with you of birth control blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I was like yes yes yes yes I know I want like my uterus out please. Cross cross check mark. Kenz: I thought she was a lovely doctor though and she was just being thorough so I didn't take offense to it or anything. It's just the due diligence, which I get totally. So then at the end of our conversation, because I was a woman in a bigger body, still am, but I was probably close to 100 pounds heavier then, ⁓ she was like, because of your... jens: I thought she was a lovely doctor though and she was just being thorough. I didn't take offense to it or anything. It's just the due diligence, I get. So then at the end of our conversation, because I was a woman in a bigger body, still am, but I was probably close to 100 pounds heavier than her. ⁓ She was like, because of your... tan: Yeah. Kenz: BMI and the way that your body is built, I'm gonna send you to my colleague because he specializes in women in bigger bodies and endometriosis. So I think it would be a benefit for you. I said, I don't care as long as this freaking uterus comes out at some point. tan: Wow. jens: BMI and the way that your like body is built I'm gonna send you to my colleague because he specializes in women in bigger bodies and endometriosis I think it would be a benefit for you. said I don't care as long as this freaking uterus comes out at some point. Yeah So I saw her ⁓ Kenz: So I saw her in 23, I think. jens: in 23. Yep, that's what you said. ⁓ Kenz: And then she referred me to the new doctor. And then I saw him at the beginning of 2025. Yeah. So it was probably six months because I think I saw, I think I went to her at the beginning jens: And then she referred me to the new doctor. And then I saw him at the beginning of 2025. Another year and a half. It was probably six months because I think I saw, I think I went to her at the... It was winter because I drove up in like a winter storm. It's a theme for me. Driving up in winter storms. Kenz: It was winter because I drove up in like a winter storm. It's a theme for me. tan: Okay. Okay. Kenz: So it's like some winter months, so somewhere between like November and March or 24. jens: some winter months, so somewhere between November and... Of 23 and March of 24. Probably November 2023 to March 2024 in that timeframe. And then it was like a year later. The next year in 2025. They saw him. I saw him for a consult. Kenz: Yeah, and then I and then it was like a year later. Yeah, I saw him for a consult. in 2025 on actually I just saw the date when I opened my thing the other day is March 10 2025 I saw him for my console I had my surgery January 6 20 to 6 so it like just under a year tan: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. jens: in 2025 on actually I just saw the date when I opened my thing the other day is March 10 2025 I signed up for my consult I had my surgery January 6 26 so it's like just and that was Kenz: from consult to surgery for this other doctor. jens: from consult to surgery for this other doctor. Right, yep, yep, Crazy. So for Alberta Health Services. Kenz: So for Alberta Health Services, not too bad. jens: Not too bad. Yeah, not too, not too shabby. Yeah. And for a doctor who's sought after a Sam with the endometriosis specialty and everything, right? it could have been a lot longer. Yeah. Two to three. But. Damn. Yeah. So I've been fighting for this for 15 years. And really seriously for the last four. Like seriously the whole time, but like this is happening for the last four. tan: Yeah. Yeah, totally. Kenz: Yeah. And for a doctor as sought after as him with the endometriosis specialty and everything, right? Like, it could have been a lot longer. But yeah, so I've been fighting for this for 15 years. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I had, I got to stop fighting with my doctor, with my family doctor, as soon as she sent me for the referral in Calgary. That's when I got to stop fighting with her. So that was three years ago. Yeah. tan: Yeah. Yeah. That's when you took that huge leap, yeah. jens: Well, I got to stop fighting with my doctor, with my family doctor, as soon as she sent me for the referral in Calgary. That's when I got to stop fighting with her. And then you didn't really have to fight super hard with those ones. You just went through thorough and then had to wait for the time. I to the doctor that did my surgery. I went into his office for the consult and I'm sitting there and he comes in and he's like, Kenz: Yeah, I went into like the doctor that did my surgery. I went into his office for the consult and I'm sitting there and he came, he comes in and he's like, okay, so you want your uterus out? And I was like, I do. And he's like, you know, the other options. I was like, yep, I don't want them. He's like, perfect. Let's do it. And I was like, ⁓ my God. I did. Yeah. Dakota's sitting beside me, like doesn't know what to do. Cause I'm just like. jens: Okay, so you want your uterus out?" And I was like, I do. And he's like, you know, the other options? I was like, yep, I don't want them. Perfect. Let's do it. Just immediately start bawling. Dakota's sitting beside me, like doesn't know what to do. Cause I'm just like, tears. Yeah. Signed my consent for that day and I never looked back. You didn't. tan: Let's do it. Aww. Kenz: Crying. Yeah, signed my consent form that day and I never looked back. tan: Perfect. jens: delve into your left pain, what he found on your left side. So I've had this left pain for the last year and a bit. ⁓ He figured it was because of how big and bulky my uterus was. So it was like pushing on something that was causing that pain all of a sudden. got big enough that it was... But I told him before surgery that I wanted him to take a really close look at my left ovary because I had a sneaking suspicion that there was something... Kenz: pain that he's down on your Yeah, so he so I've had this left pain for the last like year and a bit. He figures it was because of how big and bulky my uterus was. So it was like pushing on something that was causing that pain all of a sudden, it got big enough that it was. But I told him before surgery that I wanted him to take a really close look at my left ovary because I had a sneaking suspicion that there was something wrong. tan: presentation. jens: wrong I Just had this you're just like just look for my sake you're close You're in there already just scooch you over little Take it out like take it out I'll sign my rights. Yeah, that's fair. That is absolutely fair. I will take a look whatever So then I talked to them after my surgery Kenz: I just had this. Please take a very close in-depth look at it. And if there's something fucked up about it, take it out. Like, take it out. And he was like, yeah, that's fair. That is absolutely fair. I will take a look, whatever. So then I talked to him after my surgery. He called me later that night, to be fair, not when I was still under anesthesia. He called me later that night. My ovary was stuck. tan: Take it out. Yeah. Yes. jens: He called me later that night. Yeah. be fair, not when I was still under anesthesia. He called me later that night. My ovary was stuck. Like with scar tissue. Jesus. Like it was stuck in place. So he like took out the scar tissue and like removed the ovary from that spot. Kenz: like with scar tissue. Like it was stuck in place. ⁓ So he like took out the scar tissue and like removed the ovary from that spot and put it back to where it was supposed to be. But he was like, you were kind of right on. There was something really weird about it. tan: Is that from what your appendix? jens: and put it back to where it was supposed to be. But he was like, you were kind of right on. There was something really weird about it. No, that's too high. ⁓ tan: the scarf from your appendix? Kenz: Nope, he figures that it was old endometriosis scarring. jens: Nope, too high. tan: ⁓ Kenz: that just grabbed on and. tan: Huh. jens: that just grabbed on and once you see him again, we'll have to come back and talk about the path and all the other findings about that too. Yeah. Kenz: you see him again. Yeah, I'm really excited to talk to him about it. jens: You guys to go see him. Yeah. Especially with the strong, like similar symptoms. Yes. Kenz: guys need go see him, especially with the strong, ⁓ like similar symptoms. tan: Yeah. jens: Yes, she's looking at you, Dennis. Very intensely. tan: Yes. Yeah, I know. Like I said, I'm doing the three months of iron pills and then I got to take my blood test and then I book a doctor's appointment and push for it. Kenz: But that's what I'm saying. jens: We'll just book a doctor's appointment and push for it anyway, because I've tried that and it doesn't work because I'm still fucking exhausted and I've been taking iron pills for months. And my iron wasn't even as low as yours, so. No, it does not. And Trent makes it really strong and I didn't notice how strong it was until I. Kenz: Say this is the name. ⁓ tan: Yeah, coffee doesn't work. Kenz: Yeah. tan: I'm sick. ⁓ Kenz: I made a curing cup the other day at work and I was like, what is this garbage? And I'm getting caffeine headaches because I sometimes forget to drink coffee because it wasn't part of my day until I had kids. And now I get caffeine headaches! jens: made a curing cup the other day at work and I was like, what is this garbage? And I'm getting caffeine headaches because I sometimes I forget to drink coffee because it wasn't part of my day until I had kids. And now I get caffeine headaches. tan: Bye Kenz: Yep. ⁓ tan: That's one question I was going to ask you is have you had a migraine since you got that out? ⁓ you have. jens: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, I have. Well, it's been windy as crap here though, too. The pressure changes. My migraines have always been... Kenz: Yeah, yeah I have. Yeah. My migraines have always been more of the barometric migraines than anything else. So unfortunately, I live in the windiest city in Alberta. That's a terrible choice on my part. tan: Yeah, I was just wondering if maybe... Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. jens: Yeah. Though I just had somebody in the other day and they're from North and they're like, oh yeah, this weather is so much better. I was like, it is great because it's so mild and it snows and then melts. So it's nice. You get those nice breaks. But I was like, I don't know. Even when we were in Edmonton a couple of weekends ago. Yeah. tan: Yeah, you could move here. Kenz: And they're like, oh, we have this weather. It's so much better. Well, it is. It's mild here. And it's so mild. it's snow. tan: Yeah, you guys get breaks there. Kenz: Well even when we were in Edmonton a couple weekends ago, it was like... tan: Yeah. Kenz: minus frickin 20 and then we come home and it's plus five. Five hour drive. It was terrible. Yeah, I actually had a migraine like one week after my surgery. So was like, yeah, like six days after my surgery. Yeah, I it was also windy. jens: Yeah. And then we come home and it's plus five. Yeah. Five hour drive. Just a total change of weather. It was terrible. Yeah, I actually had a migraine like tan: Yeah. jens: Well, but you were also you also had like you were coming off the anesthesia and like your body was flushing So I'm sure that and pressure. Yeah Yeah All the things probably that one Kenz: It was also windy, windy, windy. So, who knows? Yeah. tan: Yeah. To lighten the conversation up. ⁓ We will. Well, I will. I don't know about Jensen, but I will. ⁓ Kenz: But yeah, you guys need to go to your doctors. jens: But yeah, you guys need to go to your doctors. Kenz: Yes, here's the name. My sister saw him. He's amazing. Just send the referral. Thanks. jens: I will. I also will. Please refer me. Yeah, I took a screenshot and saved it my notes for when I go next. tan: Yeah. Yes, great idea. ⁓ Everly the other day was wondering why you didn't have kids because she was like, you're married, so why don't you have kids? And I was like, well, some people just like choose not to have kids. And she was like, well, I don't know if I want kids. And I was like, well, that's fine, because one, you're only five. jens: We're using well. Kenz: ⁓ jens: oooo Yeah. Kenz: Yeah. You're five. jens: You're fine. That's hilarious. ⁓ Kenz: you tan: And two, if that's what you choose, that's totally fine. jens: Yes, that's hilarious because Frankie's like, Mom, when can I have kids? tan: They were so cute. ever. Kenz: When you're 58. jens: It's like when your mommy's age. When you're 58. See, that's so good to have a... tan: ⁓ that's funny. And then in the truck the other day, she asked me where you can buy animals. And I said, well, you can get them from like animal shelters or there's places you can get them. And she was like, okay, I needed to know because I want to get a cat when I'm older. Kenz: You Aww. ⁓ jens: So cute. Kenz: That's so cute. tan: Or when she moves out, sorry. Kenz: Girl after my own heart for sure. jens: I miss her so much. tan: I was like, that is so cute. ⁓ Yeah. Kenz: ⁓ that's so sweet. jens: sweet. ⁓ I miss Everly. tan: But she was like very confused why you didn't have kids. Kenz: Yeah, that's fair. It is confusing, I'm sure, for the little ones, right? Because they see all your guys' family has kids. tan: ⁓ yeah! jens: That's fair. It is confusing. I'm sure for the little ones, right? Because they see other kids all your guys's family Has kids well that and like kids at school They have parents those parents had them. So yeah. Yeah, yeah Well, I'm glad I can be She did what have what'd you say tell us Kenz: Yeah, they're married. They all have kids. Yeah. Well, I'm glad I can be. tan: Well, and I really asked me where babies come from. Kenz: ⁓ already? tan: And I told her, like, when two people fall in love, they come together, and then there's a baby in the belly. Kenz: They come together. jens: They come together. tan: And she was like, well, aren't Tend to Kenny and Uncle Koda in love? And I was like, well, yes, but they don't choose that for their life. So like, here I am having life lessons with my daughter and then she ignores me and walks away. Kenz: Aww. They don't want to. jens: Just ask a life altering question and then it's like, thank you. Kenz: She's like, See ya. tan: She lets, like literally she lets me answer half of it and then she's like, okay, yeah, I'm done. Kenz: Too long. Too long. jens: Too long. Too long. Too long on answer, Mom. tan: It wasn't long though I was like when two people are in love they come together and then there's a baby in the belly. Kenz: That's so cute. jens: That's so funny. it's so cute. ⁓ Kenz: I like how she's so concerned about me and Uncle Koda. tan: Yeah. Kenz: That is jens: That is so cute. Frankie also asked me for a baby sister the other day and I was like, you've got one. Did she? tan: That's cause... ⁓ yeah, so did I really. Kenz: You tan: Yeah, and I was like, honey, I'm sorry, but in the cards, you're lucky enough to have a brother. And that's all I can do for you. Kenz: ⁓ that's funny. you jens: Mm-hmm. Yeah. You're the first girl and the last girl. Kenz: Yeah, you're the first girl and the last girl. tan: And I told her like, I wished I had a brother, but you always wish you had something you don't have. Like, because I wished I had a brother. jens: Yeah, totally. That is true. Kenz: Mm-hmm, that is true. I never wished I had a brother. Boys smell. jens: I never wished I had a I did, yeah. The grass is greener. The grass is never greener. It looks greener on the other side, but it probably isn't. tan: Yeah. Kenz: Yeah. tan: But it's hard for them to understand, right? Yeah. It was cute though. Kenz: No. jens: That's so funny. But it's so good. That was a perfect way for you to explain it though. like that I can be the... Example. The example. Like the... What's the word? Like another... Not a... The diversity. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like you don't have to do this just because everyone else is. There is a choice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kenz: But it's so good. Definitely. I like that I can be the exam, like the, what's the word? The diversity. Yeah. tan: Like a role model. Kenz: Yeah. tan: Yeah. Kenz: There is a choice. Yeah. Yeah. tan: It's not the norm. You also don't have to be married to have children. Kenz: bury that, yeah. jens: True. Did you tell her that? tan: Because here I am. jens: Yeah. You're married. Now. Lots of people. Yeah, lots of people. And that's totally fine. Kenz: You're married, no? tan: Now? Yeah. Kenz: Lots of people, yeah, lots of people. Mm-hmm. Yep. tan: You do you, boo. That's all I gotta tell ya. Kenz: Exactly. Do what works best for you. jens: Exactly. Do what works best for you. Sometimes those little surprises, if they're surprises, sometimes they're planned if they're not married to you, but those little surprises save your life sometimes. Kenz: Thank you. tan: Sometimes, Kenz: Yeah. tan: Are you talking about yourself? jens: Me? No, mine was very much planned. tan: Yeah. Kenz: ⁓ tan: soon as we told Jensen we were pregnant with Everly, she like called her doctor and got her IUD out. jens: No, my IUD was out already. You guys messaged us. ⁓ You guys called us or FaceTimed us and I looked at Trent. I was like, after this, we're going upstairs. Kenz: We were planning to but it was like the week after COVID, like, shut down and we were still at that time going to Mexico and then Tana's in there, she was pregnant and they're like, okay, well, I guess we're not going anymore. And I was like, okay, let's do it. Let's do it. jens: we were planning to, but it was literally like the week after COVID, like shut down. And we were still at that time going to Mexico and then Tannis announced she was pregnant and we're like, okay, well, I guess we're not going anymore. And that was like, okay, let's do it. tan: Well, technically it was COVID, okay? jens: Let's do it! Kenz: Yeah. COVID first, then a pregnancy announcement, and then another pregnancy announcement. Let's go, baby! Yeah. tan: Yeah. jens: Yeah. COVID first, a pregnancy announcement. then... And then I was like, all right, let's go, baby. tan: Hey, apparently I'm good at manifesting because I said in high school, I want two children and the boy has to be the oldest and the girl younger. Kenz: Mm-hmm. jens: There you go, you just knew. was in the cards. tan: because I always wanted an older brother. Kenz: Well, you got an older sister. tan: But then I got two crazy sisters. jens: got another sister. Two. Two of them. Would your brother do a podcast with you or make you do a podcast? Probably not. Make you do a podcast. Kenz: Hey! make you do a tan: Thank you. Kenz: Alright, this one has been a long rambling trail, so we should probably wrap this shit up. jens: We should probably wrap this. It's great though. It's beautiful. But yes, we will come back after you chat with your surgeon. tan: Yes, has been a great conversation and it's been so. your journey though, and it's been very inspiring. So thank you for sharing. jens: Yeah, process. Kenz: Biggest takeaway. jens: Biggest takeaway. Kenz: Push your doctor. Every time you go in there, if they say no, say I would like it noted on my chart that I asked and you said no. That is the biggest thing you can do. jens: Push your doctor. Every time you go in there, if they say no, say I would like it noted on my chart that I asked and you said no. That is the biggest thing you can do. And I would still like you to refer me. just keep pushing. That's my biggest piece of advice. Yeah. Even if you don't want to refer me. Kenz: ⁓ So keep pushing. That's my biggest piece of advice. Yeah. Even if you don't want to ⁓ refer tan: Refer me anyways. I'd like a second opinion. Yeah. Kenz: highly recommend it. It's been a life-changing thing. tan: Perfect. jens: ⁓ recommend it. It's been a life changing thing. Kenz: So yeah. All right. It's been a slice. Thanks for coming on this long ass journey with us guys. Bye. jens: Tight. Thanks for coming on this long ass journey with us guys. and our new microphones that we're obsessed with. tan: Why not yet? Kenz: Tana Spaghettiers next week. Woo!